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Message-ID: <20090923190337.GA16983@Krystal>
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:03:37 -0400
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@...tel.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Userspace RCU: (ab)using futexes to save cpu cycles and
energy
* Chris Friesen (cfriesen@...tel.com) wrote:
> On 09/23/2009 11:48 AM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> > Here are the primitives I've created. I'd like to have feedback on my
> > futex use, just to make sure I did not do any incorrect assumptions.
>
> > /*
> > * Wake-up any waiting defer thread. Called from many concurrent threads.
> > */
> > static void wake_up_defer(void)
> > {
> > if (unlikely(atomic_read(&defer_thread_futex) == -1))
> > atomic_set(&defer_thread_futex, 0);
> > futex(&defer_thread_futex, FUTEX_WAKE,
> > 0, NULL, NULL, 0);
> > }
>
> Is it a problem if multiple threads all hit the defer_thread_futex==-1
> case simultaneously?
It should not be, since what we'll have is, e.g.:
thread 1 calls wakeup
thread 2 calls wakeup
thread 3 calls wait
(thread 3 is waiting on the futex, defer_thread_futex = -1)
- thread 1 sees defer_thread_futex==-1
- thread 2 sees defer_thread_futex==-1
- thread 1 sets defer_thread_futex = 0
- thread 2 sets defer_thread_futex = 0
- thread 1 calls futex() to wake up the waiter, expect 0
- thread 2 calls futex() to wake up the waiter, expect 0
Basically, what happens in this scenario is that the first futex()
call will wake up any waiter, and the second will be a no-op.
Let's complicate this, if we have thread 3 running wait_defer()
concurrently:
- thread 3 decrements defer_thread_futex
- thread 1 sees defer_thread_futex==-1
- thread 2 sees defer_thread_futex==-1
- thread 1 sets defer_thread_futex = 0
- thread 2 sets defer_thread_futex = 0
- thread 1 calls futex() to wake up the waiter, expect 0
- thread 2 calls futex() to wake up the waiter, expect 0
- thread 3 calls futex() to wait, expect -1
Returns immediately because defer_thread_futex == 0
Other scenario, where thread decrements defer_thread_futex a bit later:
- thread 1 sees defer_thread_futex==0
- thread 2 sees defer_thread_futex==0
- thread 3 decrements defer_thread_futex
- thread 3 tests defer_thread_futex==-1
- thread 3 calls futex() to wait, expect -1
In this scenario, we have to notice that if threads 1/2 enqueued tasks
to do before checking defer_thread_futex, these tasks would not be seen
by the waiter thread.
So correct memory ordering of:
- wake_up_defer:
* queue callbacks to perform (1)
* wake up (2)
- wait_defer:
* for (;;)
* wait for futex (3)
* sleep 100ms (wait for more callbacks to be enqueued)
* dequeue callbacks, execute them (4)
actually matters. I'll have to be really careful about that (unless we
just accept that tasks to perform could be queued for a while, however,
I'd like to give an upper bound to the delay between batch callback
execution).
Ensuring that 1 is written before 2, and that 4 is done before 3 seems a
bit racy. (I have to got out for lunch now, so I'll have to review the
ordering afterward)
> If so, maybe this should use an atomic
> test-and-set operation so that only one thread actually calls futex().
It's not a matter if many threads wake up the waiter, so I don't think
the test-and-set is required. The benefit of using a simple test here is
that we don't have to bring the cache-line in exclusive mode to the
local CPU to perform the test. It can stay shared.
>
> > /*
> > * Defer thread waiting. Single thread.
> > */
> > static void wait_defer(void)
> > {
> > atomic_dec(&defer_thread_futex);
> > if (atomic_read(&defer_thread_futex) == -1)
> > futex(&defer_thread_futex, FUTEX_WAIT, -1,
> > NULL, NULL, 0);
> > }
>
> Is it a problem if the value of defer_thread_futex changes to zero after
> the dec but before the test?
No. That's not a problem, because this means there is a concurrent "wake
up". Seeing a value of "0" here will skip over the futex wait and go on.
The concurrent futex wakeup call will simply be a no-op in that case.
Thanks for the comments,
Mathieu
>
> Chris
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