linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH tracing/kprobes 0/5] tracing/kprobes, perf: perf kprobe support

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Date:	Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:57:58 -0300
From:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ibm.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	systemtap <systemtap@...rces.redhat.com>,
	DLE <dle-develop@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH tracing/kprobes 0/5] tracing/kprobes,  perf: perf
	kprobe support

Em Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 02:04:18PM +0200, Ingo Molnar escreveu:
> 
> * Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> These patches introduce perf kprobe command and update kprobe-tracer.
> >> perf kprobe command allows you to add new probe points by C line number
> >> and local variable names.
> >
> > Last week, Arnaldo and I talked about this command, and he suggested 
> > that the command would be better 'perf probe', because it would be 
> > able to cover both of kernel space (by kprobes) and user space (by 
> > uprobes).
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> > Basically, I agree with his idea. But I think we may need to consider 
> > more flexible syntax for that purpose before we support uprobes. In 
> > this area, SystemTap has done big advance, we can see how many 
> > varieties of syntax it has by 'man stapprobes'.
> >
> > And also, it's hard to decide it without real uprobe-tracer (and 
> > uprobes too!) implementation on ftrace. So, I think it is better to 
> > continue using 'perf kprobe' in this time.
> >
> > But it's worth to add to todo list. :)
> 
> I'd still name it 'perf probe', even if initially it supports kprobes.

Agreed.

- Arnaldo
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