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Message-Id: <200910060335.02770.shawn.starr@rogers.com>
Date:	Tue, 6 Oct 2009 03:35:02 -0400
From:	Shawn Starr <shawn.starr@...ers.com>
To:	Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc:	Joerg Schilling <Joerg.Schilling@...us.fraunhofer.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Subject: Re: [PROBLEM][2.6.31.1] - Cannot burn DVDs - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D

On October 2, 2009 10:46:49 am Jeff Garzik wrote:
>Can you post full dmesg output?  And you have verified that vanilla 
>2.6.30 kernel works OK?
>
>        Jeff

I have not tried stock .30 kernel, I did try .32-rc2 vanilla and still no go. 
I can test .30 however this week. 

On October 5, 2009 11:43:55 pm Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:15:48 +0200, Joerg Schilling said:
...
> 
> > You can help: Ask your Linux distributor why he distributes an illegal
> > and buggy fork instead of the legal original software!
> 
> Apparently it's distributed because their legal team doesn't think it's an
> illegal fork, and it's still buggy because after you relicensed to CDDL,
>  they felt they couldn't backport your fixes to the original GPL code.
> 

Listen, I don't care about that who forked what. if wodim or cdrecord is 
broken in design, then it's time for a cdrecord-ng and start over please.  I 
don't want to see this bickering anymore.

We're just damaging users. We really should not be rehashing CD/DVD burning 
issues over again when there's much, much more pressing issues that need to be 
fixed.

Joerg, For one thing, I want to be able to access the burner devices with 
their proper /dev name. Just like any other sane unix tool like, even dd. (you 
used to resist this idea if I remember correctly on MLs) not the SCSI bus IDs, 
honestly, what are you trying to achieve here?? make it EASY for users, not 
harder.

Also, maybe if you cooperated a little better we can clean up this stinking 
pile of mess. 

Sincerely,  
Shawn.
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