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Message-ID: <20091007032901.GB12202@Krystal>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 23:29:01 -0400
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, tglx@...utronix.de, ak@...e.de,
roland@...hat.com, rth@...hat.com, mhiramat@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] jump label - make init_kernel_text() global
* Mathieu Desnoyers (mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca) wrote:
> * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@...dmis.org) wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 08:39 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >
> > > I might be missing a bit of context here, I just want to make sure we
> > > are on the same page: patching a jmp instruction is safe on UP, safe
> > > with stop_machine(), is very likely safe with the breakpoint-ipi
> >
> > Hi Mathieu,
> >
> > I've been reading through these threads (both this one and the immediate
> > one) and I'm still a bit confused. I really want to understand this in a
> > simple way, thus make sure everyone else understands it too.
> >
> > >From what Arjan said here:
> >
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/9/25/98
> >
> > The issue is going back from the int3 to the old value. How does the
> > breakpoint-ipi work?
> >
> > Supposedly, we can add an int3 to the code without any worry. If another
> > CPU at that same time hits that code path, it will either run the old
> > code, or take the interrupt. The breakpoint interrupt handler, will
> > handle that code path, and the execution continues.
> >
> > Now what is the issues with removing the int3 and placing back the old
> > (or new) value. Is there an issue if another CPU is about to execute
> > that code path as we remove the int3? If so, how does sending an IPI
> > help the matter without adding more races?
> >
> > Is there only an issue if we change the old value with something else,
> > and you just need to send the IPI after you modify the old code and
> > before removing the int3?
> >
> > I may just be totally confused, which I usually am. But when I'm not
> > confused, I feel that the code is practical ;-)
> >
>
> Hi Steven,
>
> OK, I'll make the explanation as straightforward as possible. I'll use a
> race example to illustrate what we try to avoid by using the
> breakpoint+ipi scheme. After that, I present the same scenario with the
> breakpoint+ipi in place.
>
> Each step shows what is executed, and what is the memory values seen by
> the CPU. CPU A is doing the code patching, CPU B executing the code.
> I intentionally left out some sfence required on CPU A for simplicity.)
>
> Initially, let's say we have:
> (1) (2)
> 0xeb 0xe5 (jmp to offset 0xe5)
>
> And we want to change this to:
> (1) (2)
> 0xeb 0xf0 (jmp to offset 0xf0)
>
> (scenario "buggy")
>
> CPU A | CPU B (this is about as far as my ascii-art skills go)
> ------------------------- ;)
> 0xeb 0xe5 0xeb 0xe5
> 0: CPU B instruction pointer is earlier than (1)
> CPU B pipeline speculatively predicts branches,
> prefetches data, calculates speculated values.
Clarification: going back to my past exchanges with Richard J Moore, the
specific CPU "state" that needs to be consistent on CPU B here across
0-4 is the instruction trace cache.
Mathieu
> 1: CPU B loads 0xeb
> 2: CPU B loads 0xe5
> 3:
> Write to (2)
> 0xeb 0xf0 0xeb 0xf0
> 4: CPU B instruction pointer gets to (1), needs to validate
> all the pipeline speculation.
> But ! The CPU does not expect code to change underneath.
> General protection fault (or any other fault.. random..)
>
>
> Now with the breakpoint+ipi/mb() scheme:
> (scenario A: CPU B does not hit the breakpoint)
>
> CPU A | CPU B
> -------------------------
> 0xeb 0xe5 0xeb 0xe5
> 0: CPU B instruction pointer is earlier than (1)
> CPU B pipeline speculatively predicts branches,
> prefetches data, calculates speculated values.
> 1: CPU B loads 0xeb
> 2: CPU B loads 0xe5
> 3:
> Write to (1)
> 0xcc 0xe5 0xcc 0xe5 # breakpoint inserted
> 4: send IPI
> 5: mfence # serializing instruction. Flushes CPU B's
> # pipeline
> 6:
> Write to (2)
> 0xcc 0xf0 0xcc 0xf0
> 7:
> Write to (1)
> 0xeb 0xf0 0xeb 0xf0
> 8: CPU B instruction pointer gets to (1), needs to validate
> all the pipeline speculation. Because we flushed any
> speculation prior to the mfence, we're ok.
>
>
> Now, I'll show why just using the breakpoint, without IPI, is
> problematic:
>
> CPU A | CPU B
> -------------------------
> 0xeb 0xe5 0xeb 0xe5
> 0: CPU B instruction pointer is earlier than (1)
> CPU B pipeline speculatively predicts branches,
> prefetches data, calculates speculated values.
> 1: CPU B loads 0xeb
> 2: CPU B loads 0xe5
> 3:
> Write to (1)
> 0xcc 0xe5 0xcc 0xf0 # breakpoint inserted
> 4:
> Write to (2)
> 0xcc 0xf0 0xeb 0xf0 # Silly CPU B. Did not see nor use the breakpoint.
> # Same problem as scenario "buggy".
> 5:
> Write to (1)
> 0xeb 0xf0 0xeb 0xf0
> 4: CPU B instruction pointer gets to (1), needs to validate
> all the pipeline speculation.
> But ! The CPU does not expect code to change underneath.
> General protection fault (or any other fault.. random..)
>
> So, basically, we ensure that the only transitions CPU B will see are
> either:
>
> 0xeb 0xe5 -> 0xcc 0xe5 : OK, adding breakpoint
> 0xcc 0xe5 -> 0xcc 0xf0 : OK, not using the operand anyway, it's a
> breakpoint!
> 0xcc 0xf0 -> 0xeb 0xf0 : OK, removing breakpoint
>
> *but*, the transition we guarantee that CPU B will *never* see without
> having a mfence executed between the old and the new version is:
>
> 0xeb 0xe5 -> 0xeb 0xf0 <----- buggy.
>
> Hope the explanation helps,
>
> Mathieu
>
>
> > -- Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > > approach (but we need the confirmation from Intel, which hpa is trying
> > > to get), but is definitely _not_ safe if neither of these methods are
> > > used on a SMP system. If a non-aligned multi-word jump is modified while
> > > another CPU is fetching the instruction, bad things could happen.
> >
> >
>
> --
> Mathieu Desnoyers
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