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Message-ID: <20091012123210.GB22766@elte.hu>
Date:	Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:32:10 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Simon Kagstrom <simon.kagstrom@...insight.net>
Cc:	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@...il.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Koskinen Aaro (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" <aaro.koskinen@...ia.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] panic.c: export panic_on_oops


* Simon Kagstrom <simon.kagstrom@...insight.net> wrote:

> > Yes, that looks like the better direction - but 'panic' is still the 
> > wrong trigger condition i think. We generally just crash and dont 
> > panic. Often we'll display a kernel warning and then hang. Etc.
> 
> But how can we detect that? The code above will write to the MTD 
> device either if an oops happens, or if we panic for some reason. If 
> the kernel just hangs (and is reset by the watchdog, if we have one), 
> how should we know when to write the log out?

You shouldnt need to care about that in a console driver - it's up to 
higher layers.

See my reply to David Woodhouse, i think we should add support for 
buffering in kernel/printk.c and that would both fix your problems, 
would simplify the driver (significantly!) and would expose the generic 
buffering capability to other console drivers as well.

	Ingo
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