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Message-Id: <200910141933.09374.bzolnier@gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:33:09 +0200
From:	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>
To:	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Cc:	Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com>, Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@...il.com>,
	Ozan Çağlayan <ozan@...dus.org.tr>,
	linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Current status of rt2800usb and staging/rt2870

On Wednesday 14 October 2009 18:47:11 John W. Linville wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:28:21PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> 
> > I don't have a have a problem with it personally as long as people accept
> > the competition..  but instead of working on _their_ projects they go around
> > screaming at everybody who does not want to spin inside the great process
> > designed by them..
> 
> Please whine somewhere else.  You have the freedom to work in
> drivers/staging all you want.  You do not have the power to force us to
> like it -- especially in a case where you are diverting attention from
> the community-maintained drivers instead of cooperating with them.

Cooperating you say.

rtl8187 -- before starting the work on rtl8187se I've pinged the maintainer
to coordinate the effort and hear his opinion on how to progress..

I've never heard back.

rt2x00 -- I know that people have datasheets for some chipsets but I've
never heard "How can we help you" etc. thing.

All I've ever heard was _lies_ about current state of affairs or that
my work is in the way.

> Your insults, jeers, and general bad attitude is unlikely to change
> our mind about it...

Well, when faced with real facts and technical arguments some people
go into "you are a social problem" mode...  nothing new here..
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