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Message-ID: <87zl7rp1jy.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix>
Date:	Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:43:29 +0100
From:	Nix <nix@...eri.org.uk>
To:	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Keeping network device renaming working in the presence of netconsole?

So I'm testing suspend/resume and getting a lot of wildly variable
panics on resume. I'd like to report them, so I need to capture them
somehow.

Netconsole looks like just the thing: it even says it's nonintrusive.

Unfortunately it intrudes in one very unfortunate way: if netconsole is
jabbering out of some network interface, that interface is up, so you
can't rename it: and because (to catch early panics) netconsole has to
start before userspace kicks up, this means that there is *no*
opportunity to rename network interfaces that netconsole is operating
over.

This breaks userspace more than slightly if you rely on udev's
persistent net generator rules to keep network interface names constant,
or if you rename the lot to something more memorable than ethN. Any
userspace setup of that interface, assignment of additional addresses,
routing, MTU setting et al is all toast: and you can't stop using
interface renaming unless you like your interfaces to change identities
intermittently (but we've had that flamewar).

Is there a way to rename interfaces netconsole is working over? Why
can't you rename interfaces that are in use anyway?  Yes, there's the
name_hlist, but that's protected by the dev_base_lock anyway.
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