lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20091027144932.GK6645@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:49:32 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>
Cc:	Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@...il.com>,
	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@...ell.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	"alacrityvm-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net" 
	<alacrityvm-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [KVM PATCH v3 1/3] KVM: fix race in irq_routing logic

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:02:37PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:39:03AM -0400, Gregory Haskins wrote:

[ . . . ]

> > standard RCU RSCS, which is what SRCU is designed for.  So rather than
> > inventing an awkward two-phased stack based solution, it's better to
> > reuse the provided tools, IMO.
> > 
> > To flip it around:  Is there any reason why an SRCU would not work here,
> > and thus we were forced to use something like the stack-copy approach?
> > 
> If SRCU has no disadvantage comparing to RCU why not use it always? :)

The disadvantages of SRCU compared to RCU include the following:

1.	SRCU requires that the return value of srcu_read_lock()
	be fed into srcu_read_unlock().  This is usually not a problem,
	but can be painful if there are multiple levels of function
	call separating the two.

2.	SRCU's grace periods are about 4x slower than those of RCU.
	And they also don't scale all that well with extremely large
	numbers of CPUs (but this can be fixed when/if it becomes a
	real problem).

3.	SRCU's read-side primitives are also significantly slower than
	those of RCU.

4.	SRCU does not have a call_srcu().  One could be provided, but
	its semantics would be a bit strange due to the need to limit
	the number of callbacks, given that general blocking is
	permitted in SRCU read-side critical sections.  (And it would
	take some doing to convince me to supply an SRCU!)

5.	The current SRCU has no reasonable way to implement read-side
	priority boosting, as there is no record of which task
	is read-holding which SRCU.

Hey, you asked!  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ