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Message-ID: <20091108093859.GA2845@elte.hu>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:38:59 +0100
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@...il.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, cl@...ux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: irq lock inversion
* Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 06 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > Read the lockdep message please, consider all the backtraces it prints,
> > it says something different.
>
> In all honesty, reading and parsing lockdep messages requires a
> special state of mind. IOW, readability is not its high point.
We frequently do patches to improve the messages but there's a hard
limit: generally the messages mirror the complexity of the underlying
locking scenario.
Unfortunately lockdep cannot pretend something is simple when it is not.
There are two ways out of that: either to simplify the underlying
locking rules, or to understand them.
Ingo
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