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Message-ID: <20091116230434.GC4764@const.famille.thibault.fr> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:04:34 +0100 From: Samuel Thibault <samuel.thibault@...-lyon.org> To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com> Cc: akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, hpa@...or.com, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk, mgarski@...t.pl Subject: Re: [PATCH] kbd: (#7063) make CapsLock work as expected even for non-ASCII Alexey Dobriyan, le Tue 17 Nov 2009 01:53:51 +0300, a écrit : > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:27:39PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Alexey Dobriyan, le Mon 16 Nov 2009 22:53:13 +0300, a écrit : > > And you could probably also read bug #7746 which is probably now a dup > > (yes, the original report mixes several issues). > > > > > My keymap contains > > > > > > keycode 44 = +z > > > shift keycode 44 = +Z > > > altgr keycode 44 = U+044F # CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER YA > > > altgr shift keycode 44 = U+042F # CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER YA > > > > And U+044F / U+042F is not KT_LETTER. > > > > Yes, there's no way you can express a unicode character in KT_LETTER. > > Limited interface, but that's not a reason to break other interfaces. > > What other interfaces? The caps lock interface. As I said, caps lock is caps lock, it's not shift lock. For now Linux uses caps lock. If you make it use shift lock it completely changes the behavior. > Here, U+044F is sent, now (correctly) U+042F. Yes, that's shift lock. But then any other key will also be shifted, not only the KT_LETTER ones, while it's exactly the purpose of KT_LETTER and caps lock. > > > > > Note: patch relies on keymap being consistent wrt SMALL/CAPITAL symbols. > > > > > > > > And that's not true for a lot of keyboard symbols. > > > > > > That's why patch implies keymap is not fucked up. > > > > However you can't changed the "fucked up" keyboard of people. They have > > bought it and it's printed like that on it... > > keymap is loadable, what are you talking about? > /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/ru.map.gz It seems we don't understand each other, I'll repeat what I have understood and explain more: - you say > Note: patch relies on keymap being consistent wrt SMALL/CAPITAL symbols. - I understand patch relies that keymaps always have the capital variant of letters at the shifted position of each keys. - I answer > And that's not true for a lot of keyboard symbols. - I mean Some keyboard (physical, bought at the local store, not just keymaps from CrazyHacker) do _not_ always have the capital variant of letters at the shifted position of each keys. On a french keyboard for instance, É is not at shift+é, but altgr+shift+é. So your patch won't work and actually do harm. - You answer > That's why patch implies keymap is not fucked up. - I understand That's why patch implies that french keyboard is not fucked up. - I answer > However you can't changed the "fucked up" keyboard of people. They have > bought it and it's printed like that on it... - I mean Maybe it's fucked up, but all the french keyboards are like that, you can't change that fact. - You answer > keymap is loadable, what are you talking about? > /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/ru.map.gz - I didn't understand anything. Samuel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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