linux-kernel - Re: BUG: GCC-4.4.x changes the function frame on some functions

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <90baa01f0911191154x2ab208cbp2b094c91bbd144ca@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:54:56 +0100
From:	Kai Tietz <ktietz70@...glemail.com>
To:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Cc:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	David Daney <ddaney@...iumnetworks.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Haley <aph@...hat.com>,
	Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@...il.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	feng.tang@...el.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	jakub@...hat.com, gcc@....gnu.org
Subject: Re: BUG: GCC-4.4.x changes the function frame on some functions

2009/11/19 Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>:
> I would really like this. So that we can forget about other possible
> further suprises due to sophisticated function prologues beeing before
> the mcount call.
>
> And I guess that would fix it in every archs.

My 5 cent for this, too.

> That said, Linus had a good point about the fact there might other uses
> of mcount even more tricky than what does the function graph tracer,
> outside the kernel, and those may depend on the strict ABI assumption
> that 4(ebp) is always the _real_ return address, and that through all
> the previous stack call. This is even a concern that extrapolates the
> single mcount case.
>
> So I wonder that actually the real problem is the lack of something that
> could provide this guarantee. We may need a -real-ra-before-fp (yeah
> I suck in naming).

There are, especially in windows world. We noticed that for example
the Sun's JDK (which is compiled by VC) can be used in gcc compiled
code only by -fno-omit-frame-pointer, as otherwise it fails badly
reasoned by wrong ebp accesses.

Kai

-- 
|  (\_/) This is Bunny. Copy and paste
| (='.'=) Bunny into your signature to help
| (")_(") him gain world domination
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/