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Message-ID: <20091123145154.5b2b5735@hyperion.delvare>
Date:	Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:51:54 +0100
From:	Jean Delvare <khali@...ux-fr.org>
To:	Clemens Ladisch <clemens@...isch.de>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Serge Belyshev <belyshev@...ni.sinp.msu.ru>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, lm-sensors@...sensors.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] k10temp: temperature sensor for AMD Family 10h/11h
 CPUs

Hi Clemens,

On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:45:58 +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> This adds a driver for the internal temperature sensor of AMD Family 10h
> and 11h CPUs.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@...isch.de>
> ---
> v3: added 'force' parameter for CPUs with buggy sensor; more documentation

Review:

> 
>  Documentation/hwmon/k10temp |   57 ++++++++++++
>  drivers/hwmon/Kconfig       |   12 ++
>  drivers/hwmon/Makefile      |    1
>  drivers/hwmon/k10temp.c     |  142 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  4 files changed, 212 insertions(+)

The name k10temp is a problem, as AMD insists that there is no such
things as K10 and K11, but instead "family 10h" and "family 11h"
processors.

> 
> --- /dev/null
> +++ linux-2.6/Documentation/hwmon/k10temp
> @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
> +Kernel driver k10temp
> +=====================
> +
> +Supported chips:
> +* AMD Family 10h processors:
> +  Socket F: Quad-Core/Six-Core/Embedded Opteron
> +  Socket AM2+: Opteron, Phenom (II) X3/X4
> +  Socket AM3: Quad-Core Opteron, Athlon/Phenom II X2/X3/X4, Sempron II
> +  Socket S1G3: Athlon II, Sempron, Turion II
> +* AMD Family 11h processors:
> +  Socket S1G2: Athlon (X2), Sempron (X2), Turion X2 (Ultra)
> +
> +  Prefix: 'k10temp'
> +  Addresses scanned: PCI space
> +  Datasheets:
> +  BIOS and Kernel Developer's Guide (BKDG) For AMD Family 10h Processors:
> +    http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/31116.pdf
> +  BIOS and Kernel Developer's Guide (BKDG) for AMD Family 11h Processors:
> +    http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/41256.pdf
> +  Revision Guide for AMD Family 10h Processors:
> +    http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/41322.pdf
> +  Revision Guide for AMD Family 11h Processors:
> +    http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/41788.pdf
> +  AMD Family 11h Processor Power and Thermal Data Sheet for Notebooks:
> +    http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/43373.pdf
> +  AMD Family 10h Server and Workstation Processor Power and Thermal Data Sheet:
> +    http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/43374.pdf
> +  AMD Family 10h Desktop Processor Power and Thermal Data Sheet:
> +    http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/43375.pdf
> +
> +Author: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@...isch.de>
> +
> +Description
> +-----------
> +
> +This driver permits reading of the internal temperature sensor of AMD
> +Family 10h and 11h processors.
> +
> +All these processors have a sensor, but on older revisions of Family 10h
> +processors, the sensor may return inconsistent values (erratum 319). The
> +driver will refuse to load on these revisions unless you specify the
> +"force=1" module parameter.
> +
> +There is one temperature value, available as temp1_input in sysfs. It is
> +measured in degrees Celsius with a resolution of 1/8th degree. Please note
> +that it is defined as a relative value; to quote the AMD manual:
> +
> +  Tctl is the processor temperatur control value, used by the platform to

Spelling: temperature.

> +  control cooling systems. Tctl is a non-physical temperature on an
> +  arbitrary scale measured in degrees. It does _not_ represent an actual
> +  physical temperature like die or case temperature. Instead, it specifies
> +  the processor temperature relative to the point at which the system must
> +  supply the maximum cooling for the processor's specified maximum case
> +  temperature and maximum thermal power dissipation.
> +
> +The maximum value for Tctl is defined as 70 degrees, so, as a rule of thumb,
> +this value should not exceed 60 degrees.

Now I am puzzled. If the temperature value is on an arbitrary scale,
then the value returned by the driver is essentially fake? I can already
hear the users complain that your driver is reporting temperature
values which are different from their on-board hardware monitoring chip
and they want to know who is right. It will be the same mess as with
coretemp :(

Don't we have additional information about the actual maximum Tcase
value for the different supported models, as we have in coretemp? That
would be an acceptable workaround, I guess.

If not, then it might be the right time to introduce a new interface
for relative temperature values. This needs some work, as we must first
define the interface, then implement support in libsensors and sensors,
and other monitoring applications, and then convert the affected
drivers. But apparently we will have to, as major CPU makers are not
able to implement something as simple as an absolute temperature
sensor :(

> --- linux-2.6/drivers/hwmon/Kconfig
> +++ linux-2.6/drivers/hwmon/Kconfig
> @@ -222,6 +222,18 @@ config SENSORS_K8TEMP
>  	  This driver can also be built as a module.  If so, the module
>  	  will be called k8temp.
>  
> +config SENSORS_K10TEMP
> +	tristate "AMD Phenom/Sempron/Turion/Opteron temperature sensor"
> +	depends on X86 && PCI
> +	help
> +	  If you say yes here you get support for the temperature
> +	  sensor(s) inside your CPU. Supported are later revisions of
> +	  the AMD Family 10h and all revisions of the AMD Family 11h
> +	  microarchitectures.
> +
> +	  This driver can also be built as a module.  If so, the module
> +	  will be called k10temp.
> +
>  config SENSORS_AMS
>  	tristate "Apple Motion Sensor driver"
>  	depends on PPC_PMAC && !PPC64 && INPUT && ((ADB_PMU && I2C = y) || (ADB_PMU && !I2C) || I2C) && EXPERIMENTAL
> --- linux-2.6/drivers/hwmon/Makefile
> +++ linux-2.6/drivers/hwmon/Makefile
> @@ -53,6 +53,7 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_IBMAEM)	+= ibmaem.o
>  obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_IBMPEX)	+= ibmpex.o
>  obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_IT87)	+= it87.o
>  obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_K8TEMP)	+= k8temp.o
> +obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_K10TEMP)	+= k10temp.o
>  obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_LIS3LV02D) += lis3lv02d.o hp_accel.o
>  obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_LIS3_SPI)	+= lis3lv02d.o lis3lv02d_spi.o
>  obj-$(CONFIG_SENSORS_LM63)	+= lm63.o
> --- /dev/null
> +++ linux-2.6/drivers/hwmon/k10temp.c
> @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@
> +/*
> + * k10temp.c - AMD Family 10h/11h processor hardware monitoring
> + *
> + * Copyright (c) 2009 Clemens Ladisch <clemens@...isch.de>
> + *
> + *
> + * This driver is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
> + * modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License; either
> + * version 2 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
> + *
> + * This driver is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
> + * but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
> + * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
> + * See the GNU General Public License for more details.
> + *
> + * You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
> + * along with this driver; if not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
> + */
> +
> +#include <linux/err.h>
> +#include <linux/hwmon.h>
> +#include <linux/hwmon-sysfs.h>
> +#include <linux/init.h>
> +#include <linux/module.h>
> +#include <linux/pci.h>
> +#include <asm/processor.h>
> +
> +MODULE_DESCRIPTION("AMD Family 10h/11h CPU core temperature monitor");
> +MODULE_AUTHOR("Clemens Ladisch <clemens@...isch.de>");
> +MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");
> +
> +static bool force;
> +module_param(force, bool, 0444);
> +MODULE_PARM_DESC(force, "force loading on processors with erratum 319");
> +
> +#define REG_REPORTED_TEMPERATURE	0xa4
> +#define CURTMP_TO_MILLIDEGREES(regval)	(((regval) >> 21) * 125)

I'd vastly prefer this to be an inline function. Or even not a function
at all, after all you're only using it once.

> +
> +static ssize_t show_temp(struct device *dev,
> +			 struct device_attribute *attr, char *buf)
> +{
> +	u32 regval;
> +
> +	pci_read_config_dword(to_pci_dev(dev),
> +			      REG_REPORTED_TEMPERATURE, &regval);
> +	return sprintf(buf, "%u\n", CURTMP_TO_MILLIDEGREES(regval));
> +}
> +
> +static ssize_t show_name(struct device *dev,
> +			 struct device_attribute *attr, char *buf)
> +{
> +	return sprintf(buf, "k10temp\n");
> +}
> +
> +static SENSOR_DEVICE_ATTR(temp1_input, S_IRUGO, show_temp, NULL, 0);

There's no point in using SENSOR_DEVICE_ATTR() if you don't make use of
the last parameter. DEVICE_ATTR is enough, and cheaper. And then you no
longer need <linux/hwmon-sysfs.h>.

> +static DEVICE_ATTR(name, S_IRUGO, show_name, NULL);
> +
> +static bool __devinit has_erratum_319(void)
> +{
> +	/*
> +	 * Erratum 319: The thermal sensor of older Family 10h processors
> +	 *              (B steppings) may be unreliable.
> +	 */
> +	return boot_cpu_data.x86 == 0x10 && boot_cpu_data.x86_model <= 2;
> +}
> +
> +static int __devinit k10temp_probe(struct pci_dev *pdev,
> +				   const struct pci_device_id *id)
> +{
> +	struct device *hwmon_dev;
> +	int err;
> +
> +	if (has_erratum_319() && !force) {
> +		dev_err(&pdev->dev,
> +			"unreliable CPU thermal sensor; monitoring disabled\n");
> +		err = -ENODEV;
> +		goto exit;
> +	}
> +
> +	err = device_create_file(&pdev->dev,
> +				 &sensor_dev_attr_temp1_input.dev_attr);
> +	if (err)
> +		goto exit;
> +
> +	err = device_create_file(&pdev->dev, &dev_attr_name);
> +	if (err)
> +		goto exit_remove1;
> +
> +	hwmon_dev = hwmon_device_register(&pdev->dev);
> +	if (IS_ERR(hwmon_dev)) {
> +		err = PTR_ERR(hwmon_dev);
> +		goto exit_remove2;
> +	}
> +	dev_set_drvdata(&pdev->dev, hwmon_dev);
> +
> +	if (has_erratum_319() && force)
> +		dev_warn(&pdev->dev,
> +			 "unreliable CPU thermal sensor; check erratum 319\n");
> +	return 0;
> +
> +exit_remove2:
> +	device_remove_file(&pdev->dev, &dev_attr_name);
> +exit_remove1:
> +	device_remove_file(&pdev->dev, &sensor_dev_attr_temp1_input.dev_attr);
> +exit:
> +	return err;
> +}
> +
> +static void __devexit k10temp_remove(struct pci_dev *pdev)
> +{
> +	hwmon_device_unregister(dev_get_drvdata(&pdev->dev));
> +	device_remove_file(&pdev->dev, &dev_attr_name);
> +	device_remove_file(&pdev->dev, &sensor_dev_attr_temp1_input.dev_attr);
> +	dev_set_drvdata(&pdev->dev, NULL);
> +}
> +
> +static struct pci_device_id k10temp_id_table[] = {
> +	{ PCI_VDEVICE(AMD, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AMD_10H_NB_MISC) },
> +	{ PCI_VDEVICE(AMD, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AMD_11H_NB_MISC) },
> +	{}
> +};
> +MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(pci, k10temp_id_table);
> +
> +static struct pci_driver k10temp_driver = {
> +	.name = "k10temp",
> +	.id_table = k10temp_id_table,
> +	.probe = k10temp_probe,
> +	.remove = __devexit_p(k10temp_remove),
> +};
> +
> +static int __init k10temp_init(void)
> +{
> +	return pci_register_driver(&k10temp_driver);
> +}
> +
> +static void __exit k10temp_exit(void)
> +{
> +	pci_unregister_driver(&k10temp_driver);
> +}
> +
> +module_init(k10temp_init)
> +module_exit(k10temp_exit)

All the rest looks OK.

-- 
Jean Delvare
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