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Message-ID: <20091126142745.GA4382@redhat.com>
Date:	Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:27:45 +0100
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
To:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
	Ananth Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, utrace-devel@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC,PATCH 0/14] utrace/ptrace

On 11/26, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>
> What the patches in the current form do is to introduce two different
> ptrace implementations, with one used on the architectures getting most
> testing and another secondary one for left over embedded or dead
> architectures with horrible results.

Yes, nobody likes 2 implementations. I guess Roland and me hate
CONFIG_UTRACE much more than anybody else.

> So removing the old one is much
> better.

I am in no position to discuss this option. It is very easy to remove
the old code and break !HAVE_ARCH_TRACEHOOK architectures. Although
personally I am not sure this is practical.

If we merge utrace, perhaps we will get more attention from maintainers,
the old code will be "officially" deprecated/obsolete. I sent some
trivial initial changes in arch/um/ a long ago, the patch was silently
ignored.

Even if I was able to fix arch/xxx myself, I don't understand how can
I send the patches to maintainers until utrace is already merged in
-mm at least.

Oleg.

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