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Message-Id: <1259246730.21397.97.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:45:30 -0500
From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc: mingo@...hat.com, hpa@...or.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
fweisbec@...il.com, penberg@...helsinki.fi, tglx@...utronix.de,
linux-tip-commits@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:perf/core] events: Rename TRACE_EVENT_TEMPLATE() to
DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS()
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 09:40 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> wrote:
>
> > I would like to hear what others think about this change before we go
> > ahead and implement it.
>
> You mean TRACE_EVENT() -> DEFINE_SINGLE_EVENT()? Sure, we want todo it
> in a more quiet moment of the kernel cycle, not now.
>
> (TRACE_EVENT_TEMPLATE OTOH has existed for just a few days so it's not a
> problem.)
Yes the template name is new, I'm not talking about that on
particularly.
>
> > A lot of developers have just learned about TRACE_EVENT and now it
> > just disappeared. Well, not really, but in the sense of ' find
> > linux.git -name '*.[ch]' | xargs grep TRACE_EVENT' it no longer
> > exists.
>
> A second problem with the TRACE_EVENT name is that it's not just for
> tracing - we dont necessarily 'trace' events here. We can use the event
> callbacks to collect pure counts:
Then we might as well rename the "trace_*" all over the kernel.
>
> | aldebaran> perf stat -e sched:sched_wakeup ./hackbench 10
> | Time: 0.093
> |
> | Performance counter stats for './hackbench 10':
> |
> | 15481 sched:sched_wakeup
> |
> | 0.107390574 seconds time elapsed
>
> etc.
Right, because it hooked into a trace_point.
>
> A third problem is that the name 'TRACE_EVENT' does not tell us what is
> being done. Do we declare it? Do we also define it?
That's exactly the point. It does both. I actually tried to avoid the
"DEFINE/DECLARE" because it becomes confusing to what it does. The
TRACE_EVENT macros are obviously unique in the kernel. There are
"DECLARE_*" and "DEFINE_*" all over the kernel. And they have an obvious
meaning. DECLARE_* is used to set up a declaration for a header.
DEFINE_* creates the instance. But TRACE_EVENT will default declare
event, but when CREATE_TRACE_POINTS is set, it defines the instances. Oh
we should rename that to CREATE_EVENTS?
>
> DEFINE_SINGLE_EVENT() solves all these problems:
>
> - It's obvious what it does
>
> - It suggests users of it that there's another non-single-event
> facility, gently nudging them towards the use of the more efficient
> DEFINE_EVENT_CLASS() + DEFINE_EVENT() method.
>
> - It fits nicely into the rest of the naming scheme.
Like I said earlier, I'm not really attached to the name. Except that
there's already a lot of documentation (I've given tutorials about it)
using the TRACE_EVENT name. But who am I to decide?
-- Steve
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