linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] What are the goals for the architecture of an in-kernel IR system?

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Message-ID: <20091130174512.GA762@caffeine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Date:	Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:45:12 -0500
From:	lsorense@...lub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen)
To:	Andy Walls <awalls@...ix.net>
Cc:	Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@...il.com>, Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>,
	Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@...telmus.de>,
	dmitry.torokhov@...il.com, j@...nau.net, jarod@...hat.com,
	jarod@...sonet.com, linux-input@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-media@...r.kernel.org,
	maximlevitsky@...il.com, mchehab@...hat.com,
	stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de, superm1@...ntu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] What are the goals for the architecture of an in-kernel
	IR  system?

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 06:26:55PM -0500, Andy Walls wrote:
> The only thing this buys for the user is remote/products bundles that
> work out of the box.  That can only be a solution for the 80% case.
> 
> I don't hear users crying out "Please integrate IR with the input
> system".  I do hear users say "I want my remote to work", and "How can I
> make my remote work?".  Users are not specifically asking for this
> integration of IR and the input system - a technical nuance.  If such a
> tecnical desire-ment drives excessive rework, I doubt anyone will care
> enough about IR to follow through to make a complete system.

Please integrate it so I can stop having issues with the lirc moduels
when going to a new kernel version.

> What does "equal footing" mean as an incentive anyway?  The opportunity
> to reimplement *everything* that exists for IR already over again in
> kernel-space for the sake of developer technical desires?  That's just a
> lot of work for "not invented here" syndrome.  IR transceivers are
> arguably superior to keyboards and mice anyway because they can transmit
> data too.

I have no idea.  I am sure you guys will come up with a great interface.
I just use lirc with my mythtv box.

-- 
Len Sorensen
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