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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0912042113440.7227-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 21:37:46 -0500 (EST)
From: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>
cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>, <stable@...nel.org>,
Rickard Bellini <rickard.bellini@...csson.com>,
"linux-usb@...r.kernel.org" <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
Torgny Johansson <torgny.johansson@...csson.com>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver core: fix race in dev_driver_string
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 06:50:35PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Fri, 4 Dec 2009, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> >
> > > > Maybe reference counting is inelegant; it depends on your point of
> > > > view. Can you think of a more elegant way to make sure that a pointer
> > > > isn't stale?
> > >
> > > Yes, just say "no" to device_create() and friends.
> >
> > device_create() wasn't used in the case Oliver is discussing.
>
> It was implied, as you had a pointer to the device, not the device
> itself.
Not necessarily. For example, the serial drivers have pointers to
struct tty, not the tty structures themselves. That doesn't imply the
tty structures were constructed using device_create().
> > > Embed device structure in
> > > yours,
> >
> > You can't do that when the device structure wasn't created by your
> > driver.
>
> But for USB devices, it is part of the device you are handed. Same goes
> for PCI devices, and most other types of drivers, right?
Yes. Dmitry's word "yours" is ambiguous here. It's true that struct
pci_device contains an embedded struct device. But for example, struct
ehci_hcd doesn't -- even when the EHCI controller is a PCI device. So
if you are the ehci-hcd driver, which structure is "yours": the struct
pci_device or the struct ehci_hcd?
> > > be mindful of lifetime rules and only use "your" device (i.e device
> > > bound to your driver).
> >
> > What do you mean by "use"? In Oliver's case he wasn't using the
> > device, he was using the device structure. (Maybe that's what you
> > meant.)
>
> I think that is what is meant here.
>
> > And he wanted to use it at a time when it wasn't bound to his
> > driver, because userspace still had an open file reference to it.
> > There isn't really any way around this.
>
> But you still have a valid device, just not maybe a driver bound to it.
If a driver isn't bound to it then you don't know whether the device
structure is valid or not. It could have been deallocated. Unless
you have taken a reference to it -- then you know.
Alan Stern
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