linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure

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Message-Id: <1260275743.3094.6.camel@palomino.walls.org>
Date:	Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:35:43 -0500
From:	Andy Walls <awalls@...ix.net>
To:	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>
Cc:	Jarod Wilson <jarod@...sonet.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>,
	Christoph Bartelmus <lirc@...telmus.de>, j@...nau.net,
	jarod@...hat.com, linux-input@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-media@...r.kernel.org,
	superm1@...ntu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Should we create a raw input interface for IR's ? - Was:
 Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] lirc core device driver infrastructure

On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 20:22 -0800, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:42:22PM -0500, Andy Walls wrote:

> > So I'll whip up an RC-6 Mode 6A decoder for cx23885-input.c before the
> > end of the month.
> > 
> > I can setup the CX2388[58] hardware to look for both RC-5 and RC-6 with
> > a common set of parameters, so I may be able to set up the decoders to
> > handle decoding from two different remote types at once.  The HVR boards
> > can ship with either type of remote AFAIK.
> > 
> > I wonder if I can flip the keytables on the fly or if I have to create
> > two different input devices?
> > 
> 
> Can you distinguish between the 2 remotes (not receivers)?

Yes.  RC-6 and RC-5 are different enough to distinguish between the two.
(Honestly I could pile on more protocols that have similar pulse time
periods, but that's complexity for no good reason and I don't know of a
vendor that bundles 3 types of remotes per TV card.)


>  Like I said,
> I think the preferred way is to represent every remote that can be
> distinguished from each other as a separate input device.

OK.  With RC-5, NEC, and RC-6 at least there is also an address or
system byte or word to distingish different remotes.  However creating
multiple input devices on the fly for detected remotes would be madness
- especially with a decoding error in the address bits.  

Any one vendor usually picks one address for their bundled remote.
Hauppaugue uses address 0x1e for it's RC-5 remotes AFAICT.



>  Applications
> expect to query device capabilities and expect them to stay somewhat
> stable (we do support keymap change but I don't think anyone expectes
> flip-flopping).

OK.

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