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Message-ID: <20091210144920.GA27237@suse.de>
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:49:20 -0800
From: Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>
To: Jani Nikula <ext-jani.1.nikula@...ia.com>
Cc: "dbrownell@...rs.sourceforge.net" <dbrownell@...rs.sourceforge.net>,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"dsilvers@...tec.co.uk" <dsilvers@...tec.co.uk>,
"ben@...tec.co.uk" <ben@...tec.co.uk>,
"Bityutskiy Artem (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" <Artem.Bityutskiy@...ia.com>,
"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] gpiolib: add support for having symlinks under
gpio class directory
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 04:32:17PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 03:48 +0100, ext Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 03:49:03PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > > Extend the functionality of gpio_export_link() to allow exported GPIOs
> > > to have names using sysfs links under /sys/class/gpio.
> >
> > No, please don't create symlinks under a class, that is not something
> > that any userspace tool is expecting.
> >
> > I don't understand what you are trying to do here, why do you need a
> > symlink? What is wrong with the original device names?
>
> The problem
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> GPIOs can be exported to gpiolib sysfs at /sys/class/gpio/ like this:
>
> # ls -l /sys/class/gpio/
> --w------- 1 root 0 4096 Jan 1 00:00 export
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio25 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio38 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio38
> ...
>
> The GPIO lines may and do change from board revision to another. For
> example a power button's GPIO number might be 25 in board rev 1.0 but 66
> in board rev 1.1.
>
> We want to assign symbolic names to GPIO lines and hide the numbering
> changes from userspace, because it is very painful to amend userspace
> for every board revision.
True, just like it is hard to change the kernel for every type of
configuration as well :)
This is the problem that udev solves, from usersapce, but you don't have
device nodes for it to manage, right?
> Existing solution
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> gpio_export_link() can be used to create symlinks from drivers' sysfs
> to gpiolib, but this obviously requires a driver. For example:
>
> # ls -l /sys/devices/platform/foo/
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 2 00:31 power_button -> ../../virtual/gpio/gpio25
> ...
>
> This doesn't really work for GPIO lines not associated with any driver.
Understood
> How we addressed the problem
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> We simply decided to extend gpio_export_link(). When it is called
> with 'dev == NULL' (no driver), it creates an additional symlink
> in /sys/class/gpio/
>
> # ls -l /sys/class/gpio/
> --w------- 1 root 0 4096 Jan 1 00:00 export
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 power_button -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio25 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio25
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:00 gpio38 -> ../../devices/virtual/gpio/gpio38
> ...
>
> This is exactly what our patchset allows to do.
>
> An alternative would be a dummy driver just to create a home in sysfs
> for the standalone GPIOs and use the gpio_export_link() to make the
> links there.
>
> Any other suggestions?
This type of "policy" should be better off done in userspace whereever
possible. Can't you just have a udev rule to create symlinks from
somewhere else, into /sys/class/gpio/ that show this type of information
that you are wanting to have?
thanks,
greg k-h
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