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Date:	Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:28:42 -0500
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Stephane Marchesin <stephane.marchesin@...il.com>,
	Maarten Maathuis <madman2003@...il.com>,
	Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel@...e.fr>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@...ts.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm

On 12/11/2009 04:18 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
> F11 certainly shipped some bits of it for 2D support. I am not sure if
> F10 shipped a purely userspace set up. Neither had it enabled as the
> default driver - they used "nv" or "vesa" depending upon the card.

F11 uses nouveau here.  It is actually a pain to get 'nv' going as an 
alternate -- bugs have been filed.  Makes kernel dev more difficult for 
me.  I was actually told, by Fedora people, that I should be hacking on 
the Fedora (rpm-based) kernel, rather than a 100% upstream kernel like I 
have been hacking/booting for the past decade, as a result of this setup 
(needing nouveau kernel support, thus needing Fedora rather than 
upstream kernel).

	Jeff


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