lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912150726510.14385@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:31:35 -0800 (PST)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
cc:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Async suspend-resume patch w/ completions (was: Re: Async
 suspend-resume patch w/ rwsems)



On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> What fact?  The only thing that matters is USB?  For resume, it is.  For
> suspend, it clearly isn't.

For suspend, the only other case we've seen has been the keyboard and 
mouse controller, which has exactly the same "we can special case it with 
a single 'let's do _this_ device asynchronously'". Again, it may not be 
pretty, but it sure is simple.

Much simpler than talking about some generic infrastructure changes and 
about doing "let's do leaves of the tree separately" schemes.

And that's why I'm _soo_ unhappy with you, and am insulting you. Because 
you keep on making the same mistake over and over - overdesigning.

Overdesigning is a SIN. It's the archetypal example of what I call "bad 
taste". I get really upset when a subsystem maintainer starts 
overdesigning things.

			Linus
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ