linux-kernel - Re: HDD power up in standby

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <369401ca7d25$0045b230$0400a8c0@dcccs>
Date:	Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:21:58 +0100
From:	"Janos Haar" <janos.haar@...center.hu>
To:	"Robert Hancock" <hancockrwd@...il.com>
Cc:	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: HDD power up in standby

Hello,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Hancock" <hancockrwd@...il.com>
To: "Janos Haar" <djani22@...center.hu>
Cc: <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: HDD power up in standby


> On 12/14/2009 04:22 AM, Janos Haar wrote:
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I have posted to the common, because this theme is for more lists (ide,
>> sata, scsi), i think....
>>
>> I know you will not like me guys, but i have one wish.... :-)
>>
>> I am building cheap but big storages, and after 12 drive / PC i have 
>> faced
>> with one problem:
>> The too much spinup current wich made by the 12-16 drive at the same 
>> time.
>> In my actual case, in 12V, there is more than 2A / drive for some 
>> seconds.
>>
>> I know, in SCSI, there is a jumper for this, and the card can wake up the
>> drives one by one, but i am using 2TB drives, and in SCSI/SAS this have
>> horrible price...
>> I have done some invesrtigation, and found this:
>> The most of the simple sata drives handles the PUIS mode (by set
>> features ata command), but unfortunately
>> only the professional and expensive raid cards supports the wakeing up.
>> If the cheap cards founds only 0 byte drives, this is not a problem at 
>> all,
>> because linux usually not use BIOS support fortunately. :-)
>> But i have found when i have spent a little time in google, and in the
>> documentation, linux doesn't support PUIS.
>>
>> I think this would be great, and (relatively) simple to implement this
>> feature.
>> I can imagine in this way:
>> Wake up from PUIS is disabled by default, but can be enabled by command
>> line
>> parameter, or compile time configuration.
>> The drivers should send the wake up command one by one to the drives, 
>> waits
>> for RDY DSC, and than scan the drives, and register....
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> As far as I can see, if the drive reports it's in power-up in standby mode 
> from the identify response, the kernel will send the command to spin up 
> the drive. It might depend on whether parallel scan is enabled for the 
> controller as far as whether they actually spin up one at a time, however.

I am working with 2TB Hitachi drive wich is set to PUIS, and reports itself 
as 0 byte, but existing device (pcb factory alias), but with my promise 
card, the kernel see only bad geometry and disable the port only. :-(
I have missed something?

>
>>
>> (Now i am searching for the solution to send the wakeup command by user
>> program, and than do a "hotplug" in software only, but this is not an
>> "elegant" solution...)
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Janos Haar
>> 

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/