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Message-id: <4B2A79B7.9040301@acm.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:34:31 -0600
From: Corey Minyard <minyard@....org>
To: Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
Martin Wilck <martin.wilck@...fujitsu.com>,
OpenIPMI Developers <openipmi-developer@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] IPMI: Add parameter to limit CPU usage in kipmid
Jean Delvare wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Thanks for your comments.
>
> Le mercredi 16 décembre 2009 22:42, Andrew Morton a écrit :
>
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:23:54 -0600
>> Corey Minyard <minyard@....org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From: Martin Wilck <martin.wilck@...fujitsu.com>
>>>
>>> In some cases kipmid can use a lot of CPU.
>>>
>> Why is that? Without this information it is hard for others to suggest
>> alternative implementations.
>>
>
> Quoting Greg KH as he was investigating this issue:
>
> "This looks to be a difference in the way the hardware works from
> different ipmi controllers. Some allow for sleeping in an
> interruptable state, and others do not, and can not have their delays
> interrupted. Because of this, the process is put into uninterruptable
> sleep mode, which causes a 'fake' system load increase on those types
> of hardware controllers."
>
Yes, the hardware sucks. Delays vary greatly depending on what else the
ipmi controller is doing and varies greatly between different systems.
And almost none of them have interrupts.
>
>>> This adds a way to tune
>>> the CPU used by kipmid to help in those cases. By setting
>>> kipmid_max_busy_us to a value between 100 and 500, it is possible to
>>> bring down kipmid CPU load to practically 0 without loosing too much
>>> ipmi throughput performance. Not setting the value, or setting the
>>> value to zero, operation is unaffected.
>>>
>> Requiring the addition of a module parameter is regrettable. It'd be
>> better if the code "just works".
>>
>
> That's right, it'd be better. But my understanding is that there is
> no way to figure out automatically when the parameter is needed nor
> its optimal value other than by trial and error. I'd love to be
> proven wrong though.
>
It would be possible to do this automatically, I think, but it would
require dynamic tuning. Basically, the driver would have to watch how
much CPU it is using and the message latency and dynamically set the
value of kipmid_max_busy_us based upon what it sees. That would require
this patch, I think, then another piece of work to do the dynamic
setting. That would be somewhat complicated, but workable. But
something like this patch would still be required.
>
>>> Signed-off-by: Martin Wilck <martin.wilck@...fujitsu.com>
>>> Cc: Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.de>
>>> Signed-off-by: Corey Minyard <cminyard@...sta.com>
>>>
>>> --- linux-2.6.29.4/drivers/char/ipmi/ipmi_si_intf.c 2009-05-19 01:52:34.000000000 +0200
>>> +++ linux-2.6.29-rc8/drivers/char/ipmi/ipmi_si_intf.c 2009-06-04 15:30:34.855398091 +0200
>>> @@ -297,6 +297,9 @@
>>> static int force_kipmid[SI_MAX_PARMS];
>>> static int num_force_kipmid;
>>>
>>> +static unsigned int kipmid_max_busy_us[SI_MAX_PARMS];
>>> +static int num_max_busy_us;
>>> +
>>> static int unload_when_empty = 1;
>>>
>>> static int try_smi_init(struct smi_info *smi);
>>> @@ -927,23 +930,56 @@
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>> +#define ipmi_si_set_not_busy(timespec) \
>>> + do { (timespec)->tv_nsec = -1; } while (0)
>>> +#define ipmi_si_is_busy(timespec) ((timespec)->tv_nsec != -1)
>>>
>> These could have been implemented in C. It's better that way.
>>
>
> +1, inline functions would be more readable.
>
> I'll let Corey and maybe Martin comment on the rest, as the code is
> not mine and I am not familiar with it.
>
I agree, these should be inlines. I should have caught that. I can
convert them and address adding comments as Andrew suggests.
-corey
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