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Date:	Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:30:46 +0900
From:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>, cl@...ux-foundation.org,
	"hugh.dickins" <hugh.dickins@...cali.co.uk>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 6/8] mm: handle_speculative_fault()

On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:10:29 -0800 (PST)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > 
> > Then, my patch dropped speculative trial of page fault and did synchronous
> > job here. I'm still considering how to insert some barrier to delay calling
> > remove_vma() until all page fault goes. One idea was reference count but
> > it was said not-enough crazy.
> 
> What lock would you use to protect the vma lookup (in order to then 
> increase the refcount)? A sequence lock with RCU lookup of the vma?
> 

Ah, I just used reference counter to show "how many threads are in
page fault to this vma now". Below is from my post.

==
+			rb_node = rcu_dereference(rb_node->rb_left);
+		} else
+			rb_node = rcu_dereference(rb_node->rb_right);
+	}
+	if (vma) {
+		if ((vma->vm_start <= addr) && (addr < vma->vm_end)) {
+			if (!atomic_inc_not_zero(&vma->refcnt))
+				vma = NULL;
+		} else
+			vma = NULL;
+	}
+	rcu_read_unlock();

...
+void vma_put(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
+{
+	if ((atomic_dec_return(&vma->refcnt) == 1) &&
+	    waitqueue_active(&vma->wait_queue))
+		wake_up(&vma->wait_queue);
+	return;
+}
==

And wait for this reference count to be good number before calling
remove_vma()
==
+/* called when vma is unlinked and wait for all racy access.*/
+static void invalidate_vma_before_free(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
+{
+	atomic_dec(&vma->refcnt);
+	wait_event(vma->wait_queue, !atomic_read(&vma->refcnt));
+}
+
....
 		 * us to remove next before dropping the locks.
 		 */
 		__vma_unlink(mm, next, vma);
+		invalidate_vma_before_free(next);
 		if (file)
 			__remove_shared_vm_struct(next, file, mapping);

etc....
==
Above codes are a bit heavy(and buggy). I have some fixes.

> Sounds doable. But it also sounds way more expensive than the current VM 
> fault handling, which is pretty close to optimal for single-threaded 
> cases.. That RCU lookup might be cheap, but just the refcount is generally 
> going to be as expensive as a lock.
>
For single-threaded apps, my patch will have no benefits.
(but will not make anything worse.)
I'll add CONFIG and I wonder I can enable speculave_vma_lookup
only after mm_struct is shared.(but the patch may be messy...)

> Are there some particular mappings that people care about more than 
> others? If we limit the speculative lookup purely to anonymous memory, 
> that might simplify the problem space?
> 

I wonder, for usual people who don't write highly optimized programs,
some small benefit of skipping mmap_sem is to reduce mmap_sem() ping-pong
after doing fork()->exec(). This can cause some jitter to the application.
So, I'm glad if I can help file-backed vmas.

> [ From past experiences, I suspect DB people would be upset and really 
>   want it for the general file mapping case.. But maybe the main usage 
>   scenario is something else this time? ]
> 

I'd like to hear use cases of really heavy users, too. Christoph ?

Thanks,
-Kame

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