linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] [PATCH 7/7] Ftrace plugin for Uprobes

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Message-ID: <1263272933.28171.3804.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date:	Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:08:53 -0500
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Cc:	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	utrace-devel <utrace-devel@...hat.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ibm.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>,
	Maneesh Soni <maneesh@...ibm.com>,
	Mark Wielaard <mjw@...hat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 7/7] Ftrace plugin for Uprobes

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 05:54 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:

> Now what if I want to launch ls and want to profile a function
> inside. What can I do with a trace event. I can't create the
> probe event based on a pid as I don't know it in advance.
> I could give it the ls cmdline and it manages to activate
> on the next ls launched. This is racy as another ls can
> be launched concurrently.

You make a wrapper script:

#!/bin/sh
<add probe to ls with pid> $$
exec $*

I do this all the time to limit the function tracer to a specific app.

#!/bin/sh
echo $$ > /debug/tracing/set_ftrace_pid
echo function > /debug/tracing/current_tracer
exec $*


The exec will cause the ls to have the pid of $$.

-- Steve



> 
> So I can only say there that an ftrace plugin or an ftrace trace
> event would be only a half-useful interface to exploit utrace
> possibilities because it only lets us trace already running
> apps. Moreover I bet the most chosen workflow to profile/trace
> uprobes is by launching an app and profile it from the beginning,
> not by profiling an already running one, which makes an ftrace
> interface even less than half useful there.
> 
> ftrace is cool to trace the kernel, but this kind of tricky
> userspace tracing workflow is not adapted to it.
> 
> What do you think?
> 


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