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Message-ID: <20100114162609.GC3487@Krystal>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:26:09 -0500
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, josh@...htriplett.org,
tglx@...utronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, dhowells@...hat.com,
laijs@...fujitsu.com, dipankar@...ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory
barrier (v5)
* Peter Zijlstra (peterz@...radead.org) wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 14:36 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra (peterz@...radead.org) wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 20:37 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > + for_each_cpu(cpu, tmpmask) {
> > > > + spin_lock_irq(&cpu_rq(cpu)->lock);
> > > > + mm = cpu_curr(cpu)->mm;
> > > > + spin_unlock_irq(&cpu_rq(cpu)->lock);
> > > > + if (current->mm != mm)
> > > > + cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
> > > > + }
> > >
> > > Why not:
> > >
> > > rcu_read_lock();
> > > if (current->mm != cpu_curr(cpu)->mm)
> > > cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, tmpmask);
> > > rcu_read_unlock();
> > >
> > > the RCU read lock ensures the task_struct obtained remains valid, and it
> > > avoids taking the rq->lock.
> > >
> >
> > If we go for a simple rcu_read_lock, I think that we need a smp_mb()
> > after switch_to() updates the current task on the remote CPU, before it
> > returns to user-space. Do we have this guarantee for all architectures ?
> >
> > So what I'm looking for, overall, is:
> >
> > schedule()
> > ...
> > switch_mm()
> > smp_mb()
> > clear mm_cpumask
> > set mm_cpumask
> > switch_to()
> > update current task
> > smp_mb()
> >
> > If we have that, then the rcu_read_lock should work.
> >
> > What the rq lock currently gives us is the guarantee that if the current
> > thread changes on a remote CPU while we are not holding this lock, then
> > a full scheduler execution is performed, which implies a memory barrier
> > if we change the current thread (it does, right ?).
>
> I'm not quite seeing it, we have 4 possibilities, switches between
> threads with:
>
> a) our mm, another mm
>
> - if we observe the former, we'll send an IPI (redundant)
> - if we observe the latter, the switch_mm will have issued an mb
>
> b) another mm, our mm
>
> - if we observe the former, we're good because the cpu didn't run our
> thread when we called sys_membarrier()
> - if we observe the latter, we'll send an IPI (redundant)
It's this scenario that is causing problem. Let's consider this
execution:
CPU 0 (membarrier) CPU 1 (another mm -> our mm)
<kernel-space> <kernel-space>
switch_mm()
smp_mb()
clear_mm_cpumask()
set_mm_cpumask()
smp_mb() (by load_cr3() on x86)
switch_to()
mm_cpumask includes CPU 1
rcu_read_lock()
if (CPU 1 mm != our mm)
skip CPU 1.
rcu_read_unlock()
current = next (1)
<switch back to user-space>
read-lock()
read gp, store local gp
barrier()
access critical section (2)
So if we don't have any memory barrier between (1) and (2), the memory
operations can be reordered in such a way that CPU 0 will not send IPI
to a CPU that would need to have it's barrier() promoted into a
smp_mb().
Replacing these kernel rcu_read_lock/unlock() by rq locks ensures that
when the scheduler runs concurrently on another CPU, _all_ the scheduling
code is executed atomically wrt the spin lock taken on cpu 0.
When x86 uses iret to return to user-space, then we have a serializing
instruction. But if it uses sysexit, or if we are on a different
architecture, are we sure that a memory barrier is issued before
returning to user-space ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> c) our mm, our mm
>
> - no matter which task we observe, we'll match and send an IPI
>
> d) another mm, another mm
>
> - no matter which task we observe, we'll not match and not send an
> IPI.
>
>
> Or am I missing something?
>
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Mathieu Desnoyers
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