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Date:	Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:33:55 -0500
From:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, josh@...htriplett.org,
	tglx@...utronix.de, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, dhowells@...hat.com,
	laijs@...fujitsu.com, dipankar@...ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory
	barrier (v5)

* Steven Rostedt (rostedt@...dmis.org) wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 13:37 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
> > To make this painfully clear, I'll reorder the accesses to match that of
> > the CPU to memory:
> > 
> >        CPU 0 (membarrier)                  CPU 1 (another mm -our mm)
> >        <user-space>
> >                                            <kernel-space>
> >                                            switch_mm()
> >                                              smp_mb()
> >                                              clear_mm_cpumask()
> >                                              set_mm_cpumask()
> >                                              smp_mb() (by load_cr3() on x86)
> >                                            switch_to()
> >                                              <buffered current = next>
> >                                            <switch back to user-space>
> >                                            urcu read lock()
> >                                              access critical section data (3)
> >        memory access before membarrier
> >        <call sys_membarrier()>
> >        smp_mb()
> >        mm_cpumask includes CPU 1
> >        rcu_read_lock()
> >        if (CPU 1 mm != our mm)
> >          skip CPU 1.
> 
> I still don't see how the above conditional fails?

First, I just want to fix one detail I had wrong. It does not change the
end result, but it changes the order of the scenario:

  A cpu "current" task struct is not the same thing as that same CPU
rq->curr. So we are talking about the rq->curr update here, not the cpu
"current" task (as I mistakenly assumed previously).

   if (CPU 1 mm != our mm) translates into:

   if (cpu_curr(1)->mm != current->mm)

where cpu_curr(cpu) is:

#define cpu_rq(cpu)             (&per_cpu(runqueues, (cpu)))
#define cpu_curr(cpu)           (cpu_rq(cpu)->curr)

struct rq "curr" field is a struct task_struct *, updated by
schedule() before calling context_switch().

So the requirement is that we need a smp_mb() before and after rq->curr
update in schedule(). The smp_mb() after the update is ensured by
context_switch() -> switch_mm() -> load_cr3(). However, updating my
scenario to match the fact that we are really talking about rq->curr
update here (which happens _before_ switch_mm() and not after), we can
see that the problematic case happens if there is no smp_mb() before
rq->curr update:

It's a case where CPU 1 switches from our mm to another mm:

       CPU 0 (membarrier)                  CPU 1 (another mm -our mm)
       <user-space>                        <user-space>
                                           <buffered access C.S. data>
                                           urcu read unlock()
                                             barrier()
                                             store local gp
                                           <kernel-space>
                                           rq->curr = next (1)
       memory access before membarrier
       <call sys_membarrier()>
       smp_mb()
       mm_cpumask includes CPU 1
       rcu_read_lock()
       if (cpu_curr(1)->mm != our mm)
         skip CPU 1     -> here, rq->curr new version is already visible
       rcu_read_unlock()
       smp_mb()
       <return to user-space>
       memory access after membarrier
       -> this is where we allow freeing
          the old structure although the
          buffered access C.S. data is
          still in flight.
                                           User-space access C.S. data (2)
                                             (buffer flush)
                                           switch_mm()
                                             smp_mb()
                                             clear_mm_cpumask()
                                             set_mm_cpumask()
                                             smp_mb() (by load_cr3() on x86)
                                           switch_to()
                                             <buffered current = next>
                                           <switch back to user-space>
                                             current = next (1) (buffer flush)
                                           access critical section data (3)

As we can see, the reordering of (1) and (2) is problematic, as it lets
the check skip over a CPU that have global side-effects not committed to
memory yet.

Hopefully this explanation helps ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> -- Steve
> 
> >        rcu_read_unlock()
> >        smp_mb()
> >        <return to user-space>
> >        memory access after membarrier
> >                                              current = next (1) (buffer flush)
> >                                              read gp
> >                                              store local gp (2)
> > 
> > This should make the problem a bit more evident. Access (3) is done
> > outside of the read-side C.S. as far as the userspace synchronize_rcu()
> > is concerned.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mathieu
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
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