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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001251939000.5926@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:45:53 +0100 (CET)
From:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Kyle Moffett <kyle@...fetthome.net>, tytso@....edu,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	linux-next@...r.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	utrace-devel@...hat.com
Subject: Re: linux-next: add utrace tree

On Mon, 25 Jan 2010, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 10:12 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> > But on the whole, I think it's actually worked out pretty well for them. I 
> > think the mainline kernel has improved in the process, but I also suspect 
> > that _their_ RT patches have also improved thanks to having to make the 
> > work more palatable to people like me who don't care all that deeply about 
> > their particular flavor of crazy.
> 
> Actually this is an understatement. Every feature (and I do mean
> _every_) that went from -rt into mainline, undertook 3 or more rewrites
> before it was acceptable for mainline. And every time, the end result
> made the -rt patch set better as a whole.
> 
> Not to mention, that a lot of the early stuff also cleaned up mainline.
> You can't have Real-Time without having a clean kernel. And as you
> stated, a lot of those patches to clean up the kernel, no one even knew
> that the real reason was to help the -rt patch set. They were well
> disguised Trojan horses.

Tsss. Never admit such things.

> Darn, it looks like you are onto our scheme.

Which scheme ? The only Trojan horses in the kernel tree are in
drivers/char/drivers/char/tty_io.c which put Linus himself into
Linux-0.98.2 :)

	tglx
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