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Message-ID: <6278d2221001270523r13ab8973v927c8b60da181c9c@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:23:28 +0000
From:	Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@...il.com>
To:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Linux BTRFS <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: file/extent checksums for dedup/sync...

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org> wrote:
> Daniel J Blueman <daniel.blueman@...il.com> writes:
>
>> For purposes of data deduplication and data synchronisation, it would
>> be a powerful tool to expose file data checksums.
>>
>> Since eg BTRFS uses the crc32c algorithm [1], it's possible to compute
>> the file's overall CRC from the accumulation of the CRCs from all it's
>> extents' CRCs.
>>
>> For now, exposing this via an IOCTL may be sufficient, though any
>> ideas for introducing it in a more standard way? (it's a pity that
>> when stat64 was introduced, reserved fields weren't added)
>
> The problem of doing it in any "standard way" is that it would
> hard code the way the file system does checksums in the applications.
> So the file system could never change it without breaking
> user space.

I guess the filesystem would need to express this in the resulting
data-structure, eg:
 - type 1 corresponds to using the crc32c algorithm with starting seed
N and accumulating ascending over data extents, padding with modulus
remainder or sparse holes with 0
 - type 2 etc

The next question, is does filesystem (eg BTRFS) compression come
before or after checksumming?
-- 
Daniel J Blueman
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