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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:04:13 +0900
From: Hitoshi Mitake <mitake@....info.waseda.ac.jp>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Fr??d??ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
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Anton Blanchard <anton@...ba.org>,
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Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12 v2] perf lock: New subcommand "perf lock", for analyzing
lock statistics
On 2010年01月31日 17:29, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> FYI, i've applied a file/line-less version of 'perf lock' to perf/core today.
>
> The basic workflow is the usual:
>
> perf lock record sleep 1 # or some other command
> perf lock report # or 'perf lock trace'
>
> [ I think we can do all the things that file/line can do with a less intrusive
> (and more standard) call-site-IP based approach. For now we can key off the
> names of the locks, that's coarser but also informative and allows us to
> progress.
>
> I've renamed 'perf lock prof' to 'perf lock report' - which is more in line
> with other perf tools. ]
>
> The tool clearly needs more work at the moment: i have tried perf lock on a 16
> cpus box, and it was very slow, while it didnt really record all that many
> events to justify the slowdown. A simple:
>
> perf lock record sleep 1
>
> makes the system very slow and requires a Ctrl-C to stop:
>
> # time perf lock record sleep 1
> ^C[ perf record: Woken up 0 times to write data ]
> [ perf record: Captured and wrote 5.204 MB perf.data (~227374 samples) ]
>
> real 0m11.941s
> user 0m0.020s
> sys 0m11.661s
>
> (The kernel config i used witht that is attached.)
>
> My suspicion is that the overhead of CONFIG_LOCK_STAT based tracing is way too
> high at the moment, and needs to be reduced. I have removed the '-R' option
> from perf lock record (which it got from perf sched where it makes sense but
> here it's not really needed and -R further increases overhead), but that has
> not solved the slowdown.
>
> 'top' shows this kind of messy picture of a high-overhead system:
>
> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 15003 root 20 0 28900 1116 784 R 102.2 0.0 0:14.23 perf
> 14981 mingo 20 0 15068 1396 880 R 85.7 0.0 0:11.67 top
> 15036 nobody 30 10 120m 22m 3224 R 74.4 0.1 0:04.47 cc1
> 15030 nobody 30 10 125m 27m 2744 R 64.6 0.1 0:03.88 cc1
> 20 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 53.4 0.0 0:15.04 ksoftirqd/8
> 7646 nobody 30 10 23488 720 264 S 51.9 0.0 0:04.96 distccd
> 43 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 50.2 0.0 0:06.26 events/8
> 15037 nobody 30 10 15696 4248 876 S 39.3 0.0 0:02.36 as
> 2891 nobody 30 10 23488 764 264 R 24.8 0.0 0:03.26 distccd
Yeah, overhead is main problem of perf lock now,
I'll work on it with Frederic's new patches, these are awesome.
>
> A couple of other details i noticed:
>
> - 'perf lock' does not show up in the list of commands if one types 'perf'.
> You can fix this by adding it to command-list.txt.
>
> - i think we should add a reference to 'perf lock' in the config
> LOCK_STAT entry's help text in lib/Kconfig.debug - so that people can see
> what tool to use with lock statistics.
Thanks, I've fixed these two points and prepared patch.
I'll send it later.
>
> - perf report should be used to further reduce the overhead of
> CONFIG_LOCK_STAT. If we want people to use this to tune for performance, we
> want it to be exceptionally fast. Both the perf-lock-running and
> perf-lock-not-running cases should be optimized. (Perhaps dynamic patching
> techniques should be considered as well.)
>
> - we waste 30 characters for the 'ID' column in perf lock report, which is in
> all hexa, while no human would ever really read it, and would rarely rely
> on it as well. Should be removed and only added back on option request or
> so.
Yes, address of lockdep is optional thing. This should be removed.
Thanks,
Hitoshi
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