linux-kernel - Re: [kernel] Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion

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Message-ID: <1266100773.23181.8.camel@thorin>
Date:	Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:39:33 +0100
From:	Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@...rovitsch.priv.at>
To:	"Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr@...y-dragons.com>
Cc:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@...ux-fr.org>, Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>,
	lasse.collin@...aani.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, mirrors@...nel.org,
	users@...nel.org, "FTPAdmin Kernel.org" <ftpadmin@...nel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel] Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion

On Sam, 2010-02-13 at 12:37 -0900, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010, Avi Kivity wrote:
[...]
> > Can you even unpack a kernel tree on Windows?  There are some files (e.g. 
Given a sane filesystem, yes. If (the) native filesystem(s) are sane, is
more a flamebait than anything else.

> > net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_{ecn,ECN}.c) which conflict on a case-preserving 
> > filesystem.
>  	What filesystem version are you talking about ?
All of NTFS (and basically FAT*). Are there are different versions? If
yes, how do I tell?

>  	ntfs as of recent windows is not case insensitive .
It *is* case insensitive (as it compares filesystem names
case-insensitive on the equivalent of an open() syscall).

>  	What do you mean by , "a case-preserving filesystem" ?
Apart from "please google that, thank you": The filesystem (driver))
preserves the case of a filename if you create it (TTBOMK). But it
ignores the case of the filename for other file operations like open(),
stat(), etc.

>  	Now whether or not the tools available are case insensitive is another 
> matter .
ACK. But if you have a case-insensitive or case-preserving filesystem,
the tools can´t really do that much.
And given the "understanding" of the monopolist (as such) in that area,
most of the "tools" are actually inherent part of the OS (and not just
another 3rd party app). SCNR ....

	Bernd
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Bernd Petrovitsch                  Email : bernd@...rovitsch.priv.at
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