linux-kernel - Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <4B7AB9C0.6070402@kernel.org>
Date:	Tue, 16 Feb 2010 07:29:04 -0800
From:	"J.H." <warthog9@...nel.org>
To:	tytso@....edu, Jean Delvare <khali@...ux-fr.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, mirrors@...nel.org,
	lasse.collin@...aani.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, users@...nel.org,
	"FTPAdmin Kernel.org" <ftpadmin@...nel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
Subject: Re: [kernel.org users] XZ Migration discussion

On 02/15/2010 07:15 AM, tytso@....edu wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 08:08:03PM +0100, Jean Delvare wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:07:24 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>> As a matter of fact, I am advocating the use of xz while I don't have
>>>> it installed on most of my machines. I really don't see this as a
>>>> blocker.
>>>
>>> Eh?
>>>
>>> Making many people around the world install uncommon tool is not
>>> something that should be done lightly.
>>
>> It's pretty obvious that xz will become popular quickly, at least on
>> Linux and BSD systems, much like bz2 is today. I'm not asking people to
>> start using ClearCase ;) xz will supersede bz2, it's only a matter of
>> time. I see no problem in being one of the early adopters.
> 
> If by "quickly" you mean 'ten years', sure, maybe.  Keep in mind that
> there are people where who are still using RHEL 3, and some of them
> might want to download from ftp.kernel.org.  So those people who are
> suggesting that we replace .gz files with .xz on kernel.org are
> *really* smoking something good.
> 
> People who think xz are good should be working to get it installed by
> default into the community and then enterprise distro's, first....
> 
> 						- Ted

As a note xz is available via EPEL for Redhat Enterprice Linux 5 and
anything that's derived from that.  Doesn't seem to be available,
directly, for 4 or lower.  Not sure on Suse, and Debian's already been
mentioned.  Just trying to do a quick survey of what's out there already.

- John 'Warthog9' Hawley
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/