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Message-ID: <20100222102745.GJ20844@elte.hu>
Date:	Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:27:45 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>
Cc:	mingo@...hat.com, hpa@...or.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	roland@...hat.com, suresh.b.siddha@...el.com, tglx@...utronix.de,
	hjl.tools@...il.com, linux-tip-commits@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: linux-next requiements (Was: Re: [tip:x86/ptrace] ptrace: Add
 support for generic PTRACE_GETREGSET/PTRACE_SETREGSET)


* Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au> wrote:

> Hi Ingo,
> 
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:07:10 +0100 Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> wrote:
> >
> > I'll keep them in tip:master to get them tested, but note that i cannot 
> > push any of these patches into linux-next until this is fixed, as 
> > linux-next requires all architectures to build, with no regard to which 
> > architectures are tested by kernel testers in practice.
> 
> I merely expect people not to push known broken code into linux-next.

FYI, this 'mere' kind of indiscriminate definition of 'breakage' is what i am 
talking about.

The occasional driver build breakage can be tested relatively easily: one 
allyesconfig build and it's done. Build testing 22 architectures is 
exponentially harder: it requires the setup (and constant maintenance) of 
zillions of tool-chains, plus the build time is significant as well.

So this kind of linux-next requirement causes the over-testing of code that 
doesnt get all that much active usage, plus it increases build testing 
overhead 10-fold. That, by definition, causes the under-testing of code that 
_does_ matter a whole lot more to active testers of the Linux kernel.

Which is a problem, obviously.

	Ingo
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