linux-kernel - Re: [git pull] drm request 3

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003041110070.3751@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:14:11 -0800 (PST)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
cc:	Dave Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@...ts.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> 
> If you'd made it clear that you wanted the interface to be stable 
> before it got merged, I suspect that it simply wouldn't have been merged 
> until the interface was stable.

What kind of excuse is that? It's "we did bad things, but if we didn't do 
those bad things, we'd have done _other_ bad things"?

Two wrong choices don't make a right.

Nobody has even answered me whether this is _forwards_compatible. It 
clearly isn't backwards-compatible. IOW, is there _any_ way to move 
back-and-forth over that commit, even if I can find a new libdrm?

IOW, we know we have a problem here. But what's the solution? I know I can 
revert it (I tried, I'm running that kernel now, nouveau works). That's 
not a good solution, I know. But can you offer me a _better_ one? One that 
doesn't involve "upgrade all the way to rawhide, and lose the ability to 
bisect anything, or run plain 2.6.33".

So yes, I'm complaining. But I at least have mentioned one solution. You, 
in contast, are just making excuses with no solutions.

			Linus
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