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Message-ID: <20100305201051.GG6764@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:10:51 -0800
From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, zippel@...ux-m68k.org, mingo@...e.hu,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
geert@...ux-m68k.org, cloos@...loos.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] v3 kconfig: place git SHA1 in .config output if in SCM
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:18:08PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Friday 05 March 2010, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > But let's work out what the error strategy should be. The below are my
> > initial guesses, I of course must defer to those more familiar with
> > kbuild and kconfig than am I.
>
> That's not me either :-)
> I see you've not CCed linux-kbuild@...r.k.o so far. Suggest you add them
> with the next version.
Ah, will do on v5.
> > 1. Oddball SCM conditions should not cause the build to fail.
> > "Arrrgh!!! What dot-file do I need to remove in order for
> > my builds to start succeeding???"
>
> Agreed.
>
> > 2. Errors should leave some hint in the .config file, rather
> > than simply mysteriously omitting the version/dirty information.
>
> I don't see why this should be treated any different than
> CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO. Either setlocalversion returns something (on
> stdout) and you use it, or it returns nothing and you don't.
>
> With CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO errors get ignored (tested by adding 'exit 1'
> early in the script) and output to stderr simply gets displayed (without
> any real identification where it comes from).
>
> If users expect the SCM version info to be there and it isn't, they will
> investigate.
Understood, but I am concerned about the case where one person creates
the configuration and another is looking at the .config file.
> > 4. Should the splat in the .config file identify the file and
> > line number? For example: "-error: scripts/confdata.c:nnnn"
>
> IMHO definitely not. I think you're over-designing this. It's not really
> core functionality. My viewpoint is simple: a version string should
> contain version info, and nothing else.
s/you're over-designing this/you are freaking paranoid/
With that change, I plead guilty to charges as read. But again, I am
worried about the case where one person generates the .config file
and someone else is reading it. And my paranoia has proven quite useful
over the years. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
> > After this is done, I am going to return to something easier to
> > understand, like the Linux kernel's RCU implementation. ;-)
>
> :-)
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