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Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1003080811220.30507@tundra.namei.org>
Date:	Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:23:30 +1100 (EST)
From:	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>
To:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Kyle McMartin <kyle@...artin.ca>
Subject: Re: Upstream first policy

On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Kyle McMartin wrote:
>> 
>> I recommend you don't look at Ubuntu, we might have a lot of extra
>> crud[2] in the kernel if you do. :) (Actually, shockingly less than I
>> thought, just apparmor, aufs, ndiswrapper are the obvious ones.)
> 
> Ok, so ndiswrapper falls under the "yeah, no" heading.
> 
> But apparmor was supposed to be on the "yeah, we'll merge it" path, I 
> talked to somebody about it not _that_ long ago. Some of the security 
> people object, but they object for all the wrong reasons and I really do 
> think that since it's getting used, we really should merge it.

The AppArmor developer has been posting patches for review -- there's 
nothing stopping the code being merged except for the need to address 
purely technical issues raised by reviewers, which is ongoing.

See: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.lsm/10443

> Although there was _some_ noise about Ubuntu trying to move away from 
> it.. But that may have been more of the whole FUD thing from the people 
> who for some unfathomable reason think that inodes are more important 
> than pathnames.

Hey, thanks for another random unfounded personal attack, it's really 
appreciated.


- James
-- 
James Morris
<jmorris@...ei.org>
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