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Message-ID: <1267941251.2812.20.camel@mulgrave.site>
Date:	Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:24:11 +0530
From:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@....ntt.co.jp>,
	benh@...nel.crashing.org, mdharm-kernel@...-eyed-alien.net,
	linux-usb@...r.kernel.org, x0082077@...com,
	sshtylyov@...mvista.com, tom.leiming@...il.com,
	bigeasy@...utronix.de, oliver@...kum.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, santosh.shilimkar@...com,
	greg@...ah.com, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: USB mass storage and ARM cache coherency

On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 19:36 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 04:17:23PM +0530, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On a fault in of exec data, we first try to get the page out of the page
> > cache.  If it's not present, we put the faulting process to sleep and
> > fetch it in from storage.  When we do the read, on the PIO path, the
> > kernel alias for the page becomes dirty.  Some time later, we place the
> > page into the user space (updating the pte entry that caused a fault).
> > At this point, we'll call both flush_icache_page() and
> > update_mmu_cache() ... this is where the I/D resolution should be done.
> 
> No - this is where things get extremely icky.

OK, but the point I'm trying to make is that the page cache code,
including the I/O layer, only manages kernel D alias state (either by
flushing or marking it dirty).  The user space I/D handling is done in
the mm code (I'm not claiming it's done correctly there, just claiming
it's done there).

> The problem at this point occurs on SMP architectures.  As soon as you
> update the PTE entry, it is visible to other threads of the application.
> If you do I-cache handling after updating the PTE, then there is a window
> where another CPU can execute the page:
> 
> CPU0			CPU1
> 			speculatively prefetches from page N via kernel
> 			mapping, loads garbage into I-cache
> attempts to execute P
> page fault
> page N allocated
> set_pte_at
> 			executes P
> 			*splat*
> flush I-cache

OK, so I can believe this.  We see extremely rare segfaults on parisc
which look to be the result of some I flush race like this.  However, I
think for a discussion of problems with the arch and mm interfaces, we
should probably move off the usb list and onto linux-arch.

Our specific problem on parisc is that being VIPT we can't do an I (or
D) user flush without a mapping.  We have two schemes for fixing this:
One is to use a PAGE_FLUSH flag for the mapping ... it allows the
flushes to work but refuses any type of RWX access (can do this because
we have a software TLB).  The other is to use a flush area within the
kernel where we flush a page congruent to the userspace address ... I
haven't got this working yet, and it's a bit wasteful of kernel address
space because our congruence modulus is 4MB.

James


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