linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] Unify KVM kernel-space and user-space code into a single project

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Message-ID: <y0mmxy0wa1r.fsf@fche.csb>
Date:	Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:17:20 -0400
From:	fche@...hat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler)
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Sheng Yang <sheng@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@...hat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@...hat.com>, ziteng.huang@...el.com,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Fr?d?ric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Unify KVM kernel-space and user-space code into a single project


mingo wrote:

> [...]
>> No, the split-repository situation was the smallest problem after all. Its 
>> was a community thing. If the community doesn't work a single-repo project 
>> will also fail. [...]
>
> So, what do you think creates code communities and keeps them alive? 
> Developers and code. And the wellbeing of developers are primarily influenced 
> by the repository structure and by the development/maintenance process - i.e. 
> by the 'fun' aspect. (i'm simplifying things there but that's the crux of it.)
>
> So yes, i do claim that what stiffled and eventually killed off the Oprofile 
> community was the split repository.  [...]

In your very previous paragraphs, you enumerate two separate causes:
"repository structure" and "development/maintenance process" as being
sources of "fun".  Please simply accept that the former is considered
by many as absolutely trivial compared to the latter, and additional
verbose repetition of your thesis will not change this.

- FChE
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