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Message-ID: <m1sk7qu5dl.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
Date:	Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:53:26 -0700
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm 0/3] proc: task->signal can't be NULL

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com> writes:

> On 03/22, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com> writes:
>
> If a bad user passes the large f_pos > nr_threads then this check
> eliminates the unneeded while_each_thread() loop, yes. But it can use
> f_pos == nr_threads and provoke the same loop?
>
> Or. just do rewinddir() + readdir(big_count). Now we walk through the
> list and call proc_task_fill_cache() for each entry.
>
> IOW, I don't understand how this check can help from the DOS pov.

It can't.   I just want it to be able to ;)

>> However:
>> proc_task_getattr uses get_nr_threads to get it's nlink count correct.
>
> Yes. But we don't need the exactly precise number here if we are
> racing with fork/exit ?
>
>> Not walking the thread list to get the number of threads seems like an
>> important cpu time saving measure.
>
> Not sure I understand... Also, first_tid() could use sig->sigcnt (the
> reference counter) instead of sig->count. This is not the same, but I
> think in practice this is fine.

We need a value that can be computed in constant time, and is not correct
except when the number of threads is actively changing.

> OK. Let's keep this counter as "int nr_thread".
>
> Besides, when I tried to re-implement get_nr_threads() using signal->live
> I got the really ugly result ;)

Sounds good.

Eric
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