Date:	Wed, 31 Mar 2010 16:39:12 -0700
From:	Gary King <GKing@...dia.com>
To:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
CC:	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bug in hrtimer_get_next_event?

Thomas,

Thank-you for the explanation, the code is clear to me now. As you 
suggested, tick_nohz_get_sleep_length returns exactly what I want.

- Gary

On 03/31/2010 03:43 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Gary,
>
> please configure your mail client to do proper line breaks around 78
> chars.
>
> On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Gary King wrote:
>
>  > I am implementing idle state controls (CPU_IDLE) for Tegra SoCs, and
>  > one of the idle states is not awakened by the hrtimer
>  > interrupt. There is a system-wide high-resolution timer which can be
>  > used as a wakeup source, but I need the high-resolution sleep time
>  > to configure the alarm.
>  >
>  > To fix this, I want to use hrtimer_get_next_event; however, the code
>  > that is in the tree only walks the hrtimer bases when hres mode is
>  > not active; when hres mode is active, hrtimer_get_next_event always
>  > returns KTIME_MAX. Is there any reason for the negative comparison,
>  > or is this a bug?
>  >
>  > After changing this locally, I encountered one other problem on
>  > dynamic-tick systems: get_next_timer_interrupt is called to
>  > determine whether or not it is safe to enter nohz mode; however,
>  > hrtimer_get_next_event (which is used by get_next_timer_interrupt)
>  > will always return <=1 jiffy, since the emulated tick scheduler
>  > event will be armed when tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick queries the sleep
>  > time. As a result, tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick will never enter nohz
>  > mode. I can think of a couple ways to address this (cancel the tick
>  > timer before querying the event and rearm if necessary from either
>  > the arch cpu_idle code or nohz_stop_sched_tick; ignore the tick
>  > timer in hrtimer_get_next_event); does anyone have a recommendation
>  > for a preferred approach?
>
> get_next_timer_interrupt() and hrtimer_get_next_event() are working
> perfectly fine.
>
> In the !HIGHRES case we get the next pending timer from both the timer
> wheel and the hrtimer queue. Note that there is no tick timer in the
> hrtimer queue, because the tick is generated periodically from the
> NOHZ code.
>
> In the HIGHRES case we replace the periodic tick by a hrtimer. We do
> return KTIME_MAX in that case because we know from the clock event
> when the next hrtimer is due. So the check works that way:
>
> query next timer wheel timer
> if that timer is due in the next jiffy, keep going
>
> if not, cancel the tick timer and rearm it to the next timer
> wheel interrupt. If there is any hrtimer pending _BEFORE_ the
> next timer wheel timer then the clock event is armed to that
> event anyway and not overridden by the modified tick timer.
>
> Simply, do not use the hrtimer_get_next_event() and
> get_next_timer_interrupt() for your purpose. They work only with the
> tick management layer and are not designed for general purpose use.
>
> If you want to know how far away the next timer event is, then use:
>
> tick_nohz_get_sleep_length()
>
> That's going to tell you when the next timer interrupt will happen
> when the system is idle. That works for high res off and on case.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
>
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