linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/amd-iommu: enable iommu before attaching devices

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Message-ID: <20100402223809.GB29241@sequoia.sous-sol.org>
Date:	Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:38:09 -0700
From:	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>
To:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
Cc:	Chris Wright <chrisw@...s-sol.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@....com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@...hat.com>, kexec@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, hbabu@...ibm.com,
	iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/amd-iommu: enable iommu before attaching
	devices

* Vivek Goyal (vgoyal@...hat.com) wrote:
> Following is just for my education purposes. Trying to understand better
> the impact of in-flight DMAs. So IIUC, in kudmp context following seems to be
> sequence of events.
> 
> 1. kernel crashes, we leave IOMMU enabled.

No, we actually disable the IOMMU

panic()
  crash_exec()
    machine_crash_shutdown()
      native_machine_crash_shutdown()
        x86_platform.iommu_shutdown() == amd_iommu_init.c::disable_iommus()
  
> 2. boot into capture kernel and we call enable_iommus(). This function
>    first disables iommu, sets up new device table and enables iommus
>    again.
> 	a. So during this small window when iommu is disabled and we enable
> 	   it back, any inflight DMA will passthrough possibly to an
> 	   unintended physical address as translation is disabled and it
> 	   can corrupt the kdump kenrel.

Yes, should be possible.

> 	b. Even after enabling the iommu, I guess we will continue to
> 	   use cached DTE, and translation information to handle any
> 	   in-flight DMA. The difference is that now iommus are enabled
> 	   so any in-flight DMA should go to the address as intended in
> 	   first kenrel and should not corrupt anything.

Cached DTE only gets you domainID and pt root, so results depend upon
other caches too.

> 3. Once iommus are enabled again, we allocated and initilize protection
>    domains. We attach devices to domains. In the process we flush the
>    DTE, PDE and IO TLBs.

Yes, but this is immediately after 2b above.  We can't send the invalidate
commands until the iommu is enabled.

> 	c. Looks like do_attach->set_dte_entry(), by default gives write
> 	   permission (IW) to all the devices. I am assuming that at
> 	   this point of time translation is enabled and possibly unity
> 	   mapped.

Unlikely to have full unity map, it's typically just for a range,
and this is also typically for devices that have interaction w/ BIOS
(typical examples are usb/SMM for keyboard and integrated graphics).
And the mapping is to reserved memory areas (BIOS regions).  On my test
box, for example, there are none of the BIOS specified ranges.

>	   If that's the case, any in-flight DMA will not be
> 	   allowed to happen at unity mapped address and this can possibly
> 	   corrupt the kernel? 

I don't understand what you mean there.

> I understand this patch should fix the case when in second kernel a 
> device is not doing DMA because of possibly cached DTE, and translation
> information. But looks like in-flight DMA issues will still need a closer
> look. But that is a separate issue and needs to be addressed in separate
> set of patches.

All of the in-flight DMA corrupts kdump kernel memory issues can exist
w/out an IOMMU.  On the one hand, the IOMMU actually reduces the window
of opportunity, but on the other it adds possible translation issue.

About the only thing we can do here is modify the crashing kernel to
update the DTE to disable dma, invalidate, and leave IOMMU enabled.
This is all in the context of crashing, so any further errors here mean
we probably won't get to kdump kernel.

The kexec'd kernel will still need to defensively prepare things as it
always does since it can't trust anything that came before it.

thanks,
-chris
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