linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] sched: cpuacct: Track cpuusage for CPU frequencies

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Message-Id: <201004122203.42436.trenn@suse.de>
Date:	Mon, 12 Apr 2010 22:03:41 +0200
From:	Thomas Renninger <trenn@...e.de>
To:	Mike Chan <mike@...roid.com>
Cc:	menage@...gle.com, balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, dwalker@...o99.com,
	cpufreq@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: cpuacct: Track cpuusage for CPU frequencies

On Friday 09 April 2010 10:50:33 pm Mike Chan wrote:
> 2010/4/9 Thomas Renninger <trenn@...e.de>:
> > On Wednesday 07 April 2010 03:21:59 Mike Chan wrote:
> >> New file: cpuacct.cpufreq when CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_STATS is enabled.
> >>
> >> cpuacct.cpufreq reports the CPU time (nanoseconds) spent at each CPU
> >> frequency
> >>
> >> Maximum number of frequencies supported is 32. As future architectures
> >> are added that support more than 32 frequency levels, CPUFREQ_TABLE_MAX
> >> in sched.c needs to be updated.
> >
> > Why is accounting of each frequency needed?
>
> The intent is to track time spent at each cpu frequency to measure
> power consumption. Userspace can figure out the mapping between
> frequency and power consumption. This is also a useful indication of
> what kind of hw performance userspace apps need (does Chrome really
> need 1ghz?).
>
> Paul Menage had suggested an integral earlier in my [RFC] patch. I
> wasn't completely against the idea but it had a few shortcomings that
> I couldn't think of decent solutions for. You would have to either
> pre-define power consumption for the cpu frequences per-arch or board
> file. Or have a way to calculate.
Sounds as if this is for specific CPUs/boards only then.
X86 boosting and PCC driver are hard, possibly impossible to track (in respect 
to real power consumption).

> > pcc-cpufreq driver can do every frequency in a range and supports
> > hundreds of different frequencies, thus it does not depend on
> > CPU_FREQ_TABLE. Would the average frequency be enough to track/account?
> Humm, this is a tricky case we haven't yet run into for ARM. Average
> frequency might not be too useful because power is not linear with
> speed. We could possibly have buckets for speeds (hi/lo).
Your whole concept sounds as if it requires limited amount of frequencies. 
Don't mind for the special case I mentioned.

      Thomas
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