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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004251122230.25835-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
Date:	Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:29:24 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
cc:	Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	Márton Németh <nm127@...email.hu>,
	Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@...oscopio.com>,
	<linux-input@...r.kernel.org>,
	Sven Neumann <s.neumann@...mfeld.com>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@...omail.se>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	<linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Tero Saarni <tero.saarni@...il.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 8/9] Input: Block suspend while event queue
 is not empty.

On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> On Saturday 24 April 2010, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> > > <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > On Friday 23 April 2010 01:56:25 pm Randy Dunlap wrote:
> > > >> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:08:57 -0700 Arve Hjønnevåg wrote:
> > > >> > Add an ioctl, EVIOCSSUSPENDBLOCK, to enable a suspend_blocker that will
> > > >> > block suspend while the event queue is not empty. This allows userspace
> > > >> > code to process input events while the device appears to be asleep.

> > Is there some reason why this feature needs to be enabled by an 
> > ioctl?  Why not make this suspend blocker permanently enabled?
> 
> The ioctl is there so that user space can use suspend blockers, which is
> needed because only user space know that some activities are going to continue
> and therefore the system should not be suspended (like playing music "in the
> background").

No, you're thinking of a different ioctl: SUSPEND_BLOCKER_IOCTL_BLOCK.  
This one (EVIOCSSUSPENDBLOCK) is present _only_ to enable one specific
suspend blocker, which is activated when the input event queue is
non-empty.  I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be enabled all the
time.

Alan Stern

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