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Message-Id: <201005022329.48309.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Sun, 2 May 2010 23:29:48 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:	"Arve Hj??nnev??g" <arve@...roid.com>,
	linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>,
	Magnus Damm <damm@...l.co.jp>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...onice.net>,
	Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@...ibm.com>,
	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@...il.com>,
	linux-doc@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api.

On Sunday 02 May 2010, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Sun 2010-05-02 22:10:53, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Sunday 02 May 2010, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > 
> > > > Adds /sys/power/policy that selects the behaviour of /sys/power/state.
> > > > After setting the policy to opportunistic, writes to /sys/power/state
> > > > become non-blocking requests that specify which suspend state to enter
> > > > when no suspend blockers are active. A special state, "on", stops the
> > > > process by activating the "main" suspend blocker.
> > > 
> > > As I explained before (and got no reply),  the proposed interface is
> > > ugly. It uses one sysfs file to change semantics of another one.
> > 
> > In fact this behavior was discussed at the LF Collab Summit and no one
> > involved had any problem with that.
> 
> Well, I explained why I disliked in previous mail in more details,

We do exactly the same thing with 'pm_test', so I'm not sure what the problem is.

> and neither you nor Arve explained why it is good solution.

Because it's less confusing.  Having two different attributes returning
almost the same contents and working in a slightly different way wouldn't be
too clean IMO.

Also it reduces code duplication slightly.

> I was not on LF Collab summit, so unfortunately I can't comment on that.
> 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Arve Hj??nnev??g <arve@...roid.com>
> > > 
> > > NAK.
> > 
> > Ignored.
> 
> WTF?

Literally.  I'm not going to take that NAK into consideration.

Rafael
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