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Date:	Wed, 5 May 2010 13:09:06 -0700
From:	mark gross <mgross@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>
Cc:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>, markgross@...gnar.org,
	Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api.

On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 02:31:31PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 06:50:50PM -0700, mark gross wrote:
> 
> > In my sequence above I had the modem driver "magically" knowing to fail
> > this suspend attempt.  (that "magic" wasn't fully thought out though.)
> 
> If the modem driver knows to "magically" fail a suspend attempt until it 
> knows that userspace has consumed the event, you have something that 
> looks awfully like suspend blockers.
> 
> > There *has* to be a better way.
> 
> But nobody has reasonably proposed one and demonstrated that it works. 
> We've had over a year to do so and failed, and I think it's pretty 
> unreasonable to ask Google to attempt to rearchitect based on a 
> hypothetical.
>

These are not new issues being raised. They've had over a year to
address them, and all thats really happened was some sed script changes
from wake_lock to suspend_blocker.  Nothing is really different
here.

Rearchitecting out of tree code is as silly thing for you to expect from
a community member.  

sigh, lets stop wasting time and just merge it then.

I'm finished with this thread until I do some rearchecting and post
something that looks better to me.  I'll look for this stuff in 2.6.34
or 35.

--mgross 
ps It think the name suspend blocker is worse than wake-lock.  I'd
change it back.


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