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Date:	Mon, 10 May 2010 18:58:04 +0800
From:	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>
To:	Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	"eranian@...il.com" <eranian@...il.com>,
	"Gary.Mohr@...l.com" <Gary.Mohr@...l.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"arjan@...ux.intel.com" <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@....linux.org.uk>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf: export registerred pmus via sysfs

On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 18:35 +0800, Paul Mundt wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 06:26:35PM +0800, Lin Ming wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 18:18 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 18:11 +0800, Lin Ming wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:40 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 17:27 +0800, Lin Ming wrote:
> > > > > > Export pmus via sysfs /sys/devices/system/cpu/pmus/0...N
> > > > > > The file name is the pmu id, ie, /sys/devices/system/cpu/pmus/N
> > > > > > represents pmu id N.
> > > > > > So perf tool can use it to initialize perf_event_attr. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why create a whole new directory, why not:
> > > > > 
> > > > >  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/pmu_id ?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/pmu_id contain all ids?
> > > > 
> > > > For example, each cpu has 4 pmus and the file pmu_id shows something
> > > > like,
> > > > 
> > > > #cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/pmu_id
> > > > 0 1 2 3
> > > 
> > > No, I'm assuming there is only 1 PMU per CPU. Corey is the expert on
> > > crazy hardware though, but I think the sanest way is to extend the CPU
> > > topology if there's more structure to it.
> > 
> > But our goal is to support multiple pmus, don't we need to assume there
> > are more than 1 PMU per CPU?
> > 
> The multiple PMU case still suggests 1 per CPU in most (all?) cases. If
> you're thinking of PMUs in the northbridge case this would sit under its
> own topology given that most CPUs will have a shared view of it. Do you

Take Nehalem core and uncore pmu as an example,

core pmu sits under /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/pmu_id with ID 0,

But uncore pmu is shared by cpus within package, where should it sit
under?

> have some cases with performance counters in per-CPU memory controllers
> or something similar?

Not sure about this now. I'll check.

> 
> > How about
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/pmu_0
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/pmu_1
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/pmu_2
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/pmu_3
> > ....?
> > 
> If you're following driver model naming conventions, then these should
> all be pmu.0, pmu.1, etc, etc.

Thanks,
Lin Ming

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