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Date:	Mon, 10 May 2010 13:53:44 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	"eranian@...il.com" <eranian@...il.com>,
	"Gary.Mohr@...l.com" <Gary.Mohr@...l.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"arjan@...ux.intel.com" <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@....linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf: export registerred pmus via sysfs


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 13:43 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah, we really want a mechanism like this in place instead of continuing with 
> > the somewhat ad-hoc extensions to the event enumeration space.
> > 
> > One detail: i think we want one more level. Instead of:
> > 
> >  /sys/devices/system/node/nodeN/node_events
> >                                 node_events/event_source_id
> >                                 node_events/local_misses
> >                                            /local_hits
> >                                            /remote_misses
> >                                            /remote_hits
> >                                            /...
> > 
> > We want the individual events to be a directory, containing the event_id:
> > 
> >  /sys/devices/system/node/nodeN/node_events
> >                                 node_events/event_source_id
> >                                 node_events/local_misses/event_id
> >                                            /local_hits/event_id
> >                                            /remote_misses/event_id
> >                                            /remote_hits/event_id
> >                                            /...
> > 
> > The reason is that we want to keep our options open to add more attributes to 
> > individual events. (In fact extended attributes already exist for certain 
> > event classes - such as the 'format' info for tracepoints.) 
> 
> Sure, sounds like a sensible suggestion.
> 
> One thing I'd also like to clarify is that !raw events should not be 
> exhaustive hardware event lists, those are best left for userspace, but 
> instead are generally useful events that can be expected to be implemented 
> by any hardware of that particular class.
> 
> So a GPU might have things like 'vsync' and 'cmd_pipeline_stall' or whatever 
> is a generic GPU feature, but not very implementation specific things that 
> the next generation of hardware won't ever have.

Definitely so.

	Ingo
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