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Date:	Tue, 11 May 2010 10:43:52 +0800
From:	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	"eranian@...il.com" <eranian@...il.com>,
	"Gary.Mohr@...l.com" <Gary.Mohr@...l.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"arjan@...ux.intel.com" <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@....linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/9] perf: export registerred pmus via sysfs

On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 19:27 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-05-10 at 18:26 +0800, Lin Ming wrote:
> 
> > > No, I'm assuming there is only 1 PMU per CPU. Corey is the expert on
> > > crazy hardware though, but I think the sanest way is to extend the CPU
> > > topology if there's more structure to it.
> > 
> > But our goal is to support multiple pmus, don't we need to assume there
> > are more than 1 PMU per CPU?
> 
> No, because as I said, then its ambiguous what pmu you want. If you have
> that, you need to extend your topology information.
> 
> Anyway, I talked with Ingo on this and he'd like to see this somewhat
> extended.
> 
> Instead of a pmu_id field, which we pass into a new
> perf_event_attr::pmu_id field, how about creating an event_source sysfs
> class. Then each class can have an event_source_id and a hierarchy of
> 'generic' events.
> 
> We'd start using the PERF_TYPE_ space for this and express the
> PERF_COUNT_ space in the event attributes found inside that class.
> 
> That way we can include all the existing event enumerations into this as
> well.
> 
> This way we can create:
> 
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/cpu_hardware_events 
>                              cpu_hardware_events/event_source_id
>                              cpu_hardware_events/cpu_cycles
>                              cpu_hardware_events/instructions
>                                                 /...
> 
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/cpu_raw_events
>                              cpu_raw_events/event_source_id
> 
> 
> These would match the current PERF_TYPE_* values for compatibility
> 
> For new PMUs we can start a dynamic range of PERF_TYPE_ (say at 64k but
> that's not ABI and can be changed at any time, we've got u32 to play
> with).
> 
> For uncore this would result in:
> 
> /sys/devices/system/node/nodeN/node_raw_events
>                                node_raw_events/event_source_id
> 
> and maybe:
> 
> /sys/devices/system/node/nodeN/node_events
>                                node_events/event_source_id
>                                node_events/local_misses
>                                           /local_hits
>                                           /remote_misses
>                                           /remote_hits
>                                           /...
> 
> 
> The software events and tracepoints and kprobes stuff we could hang off
> of /sys/kernel/ or something
> 
> So your registration would indeed look like something:
> 
>  perf_event_register_pmu(struct pmu *pmu, int type),
> 
> where type would normally be -1 (dynamic) but would be PERF_TYPE_ for
> those already laid down in ABI.
> 
> This approach will also give us a good overview
> in /sys/class/event_source/, which will be a flat listing of all
> existing event sources.
> 
> Does this make sense?

Thanks for the idea.

Give me some time to get a clear understanding of the ideas from you and
others.

And then I'll work out a patch as soon as possible.

Lin Ming

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