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Message-Id: <201005162135.18767.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Sun, 16 May 2010 21:35:18 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@...a.org.au>
Cc:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Matt Reimer <mattjreimer@...il.com>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	"linux-pm" <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while userspace is frozen?

On Saturday 15 May 2010, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On 15/05/10 12:37, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 May 2010, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >
> >>> Subject: [PATCH] fs: prevent hang on suspend/resume when MMC/SD card present
> >>>
> >>> Devices can come and go bus during suspend or resume, when the
> >>> writeback thread is frozen, resulting in a hang. Prevent the hang
> >>> by thawing the writeback thread in del_gendisk().
> >
> >> Why not just make it unfreezeable to start with?
> >
> > If the writeback thread were unfreezable, it might wake up and try to
> > write dirty pages back to disks after they were already suspended.
> > That would not lead to good consequences...
> 
> If it syncs data as it should when we freeze processes, there won't be 
> any problem. Perhaps this is just an argument against making syncing 
> optional?

No, there is a problem.  The writeback threads were made freezable after some
people had reported hangs during suspend that had been tracked down to that
issue.  IIRC.

Rafael

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