linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6)

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Message-ID: <20100520101534.GH9992@nokia.com>
Date:	Thu, 20 May 2010 13:15:34 +0300
From:	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ia.com>
To:	ext Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>
Cc:	"me@...ipebalbi.com" <me@...ipebalbi.com>,
	"Balbi Felipe (Nokia-D/Helsinki)" <felipe.balbi@...ia.com>,
	ext James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@...prootsystems.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	"linux-omap@...r.kernel.org" <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
	Geoff Smith <geoffx.smith@...el.com>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lrg@...mlogic.co.uk>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 6)

Hi,

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:05:19PM +0200, ext Florian Mickler wrote:
>You said that already. For me this sounds like you want to take the
>users hostage in order to get nice (poweraware) apps.

not the users, no. The app developers. They should know what bad 
applications can cause to a nicely done system.

>Robust system design can take crap and perform well. Users will most of
>the time prefer a robust system over a nicely designed system. (Just
>think of the ak-47)

(hope you're talking about the gun :-p)
put some bad bullets on ak-47 and see if it behaves well, a really 
crappy trigger will also make it fail. How robust can a system be with 
badly chosen components ?

>I think we just have to agree to disagree here?

I think so.

-- 
balbi

DefectiveByDesign.org
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