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Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 09:08:58 +0200
From: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@...omail.se>
To: Ping Cheng <pinglinux@...il.com>
CC: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
linux-input@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Mika Kuoppala <mika.kuoppala@...ia.com>,
Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@...-t.net>,
Benjamin Tissoires <tissoire@...a.fr>,
Stephane Chatty <chatty@...c.fr>,
Rafi Rubin <rafi@...s.upenn.edu>,
Michael Poole <mdpoole@...ilus.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] input: mt: Document the MT event slot protocol (rev2)
Ping Cheng wrote:
> Hi Henrik,
>
> I am trying to link the protocol to the actual multi-touch devices in
> my "mind". Hope it helps you to point out the mismatch between my
> imagination and the protocol. Please see details in line.
>
> Ping
Hi Ping,
first out, thank you for your detailed analysis, it aids in removing ambiguities
and defining the borders of the protocol.
> Am I right in thinking that SYN_MT_SLOT represents to the actual touch
> area/finger on the surface? There could be more than one (x,y) (a few
> points that form an irregular shape) that represents one finger. The
> following example shows that slot 0 (finger 1) touched three points on
> the surface while slot 1 (finger 2) only has one point reported:
>
> + SYN_MT_SLOT 0
> + ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 45
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[0]
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[0]
> + ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 46
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[1]
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[1]
> + ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 47
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[2]
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[2]
> + SYN_MT_SLOT 1
> + ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 30
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[3]
> + ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[3]
> + SYN_REPORT
>
It helps to think of both TRACKING_ID and BLOB_ID as labels of a single
identified contact which occupies one slot. To represent a set of contacts as an
entity, one needs to add a label to the slot, representing that entity. As
pointed out in a later reply by Peter, the BLOB_ID serves this purpose well. The
name is slightly unfortunate, being a bit too generic. Let us use this
discussion to pin down a more exact definition:
ABS_MT_BLOB_ID is a label which groups contacts in close relation to each other,
such as a hand.
With this in mind, the sequence becomes
SYN_MT_SLOT 0
ABS_MT_BLOB_ID 11
ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 45
ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[0]
ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[0]
SYN_MT_SLOT 1
ABS_MT_BLOB_ID 11
ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 46
ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[1]
ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[1]
SYN_MT_SLOT 2
ABS_MT_BLOB_ID 11
ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 47
ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[2]
ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[2]
SYN_MT_SLOT 3
ABS_MT_BLOB_ID 89
ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID 30
ABS_MT_POSITION_X x[3]
ABS_MT_POSITION_Y y[3]
SYN_REPORT
Here, we are looking at one blob (11) consisting of three contacts (45, 46, 47),
and another blob (89) consisting of one contact (30).
[...]
> So, an EVIO for X driver to retrieve the number of SLOTs would be very
> helpful. Something like the following would do the work:
>
> input_set_abs_params(input_dev, ABS_MT_SLOT, 0, 12, 0, 0);
>
> which tells the user land clients that they can expect up to 13 touch areas.
The SYN_MT_SLOT is a synchronization control event (EV_SYN), so it would require
a different way to report value ranges, but the idea is sound. I will think
about how to achieve this.
>> +The main difference between the raw type A protocol and the higher level
>> +type B slot protocol lies in the usage of identifiable contacts. The slot
>> +protocol requires the use of the ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID,
>
> With what I said above, I think ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID is not the unique
> identifier for type B protocol. It is the fact that we can identify
> individual touch areas and use ABS_MT_SLOT to report them that makes
> it a type B event.
This is correct, but the TRACKING_ID is strong evidence that the device is
capable of identifying contacts.
>> ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID, either provided by the
>> +hardware of computed from the raw data [5].
> ^^ or (is it?)
>
> I agree with this ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID definition. I would think something like:
>
> input_set_abs_params(input_dev, ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID, 0, 47, 0, 0);
>
> which tells the clients that total of 48 points are tracked, would be helpful.
Agreed.
> Another topic that may be irrelevant to this patch is the filter. With
> the use of ABS_MT_TRACKING_ID, a filter can be applied to discard the
> useless repeated points or less than a certain number of points
> movement.
As pointed out by Rafi in a later post, this is indeed one of the major points
of the slot protocol. The filtering details can be found in the patch
accompanying this documentation.
Cheers,
Henrik
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